T-Shirts

[zl900_moab]

This is a poll to try and get a consensus on the zl-oa t-shirt design...
Now we all know that you cannot please 100% of the people 100% of the time, so let me know as best you can within the confines of this poll, and offer feedback as possible, the sooner we get all this straightened out, the sooner we will have our spiffy new zl-oa t-shirts!

The shirts will be black with white printing, at least at first.

Thanks, ElimiNation!!!


moab...

[justin jackson]

How about putting our screen names on these (someone else also mentioned this)? I couldn't ID any of you guys at a function or a gathering, but, if we had our names on them........

[CHRIS]

i'm in for any style of lettering on shirt. i just want some shirts to wear with pride as i promote the "best" **** website, club, & family in the world. ZL-OA !!!!!!!:headbang: CHRIS

[rkerg]

OK, my idea for an alternative slogan is..."Because Harleys Are Too **** Slow"

[zlMark]

Moab here is the jpg you requested

[GGRA]

Moab, could you post the ZL outline you have on the shirt mock-up?

[justin jackson]

OK, my idea for an alternative slogan is..."Because Harleys Are Too **** Slow"
or- Making harley davidson my bit$h since 1985

[kawboy]

or- Making harley davidson my bit$h since 1985

or - "noise does not equal horsepower"

[Hellion]

I would aslo 3rd the motion for our screen names on the front of them, you know like what some of us have on our work uniforms. :headbang: Oh and I would be up for 2 or 3.

[Don Fonzarelli]

I'll stick with the shirt you came up with in the other thread,
http://www.zl-oa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10703
with the "Bad news..........." on the back.
It covers everything is my opninion! :headbang:

[zl900_moab]

I was thinking maybe a jersey or something later with screen names...The cost would be higher for that than for a regular t-shirt with the same graphic on each, as for the cost it would be $15.00 usd per shirt and this includes shipping within the US, it would be slightly higher for those overseas due to shipping costs (I'm thinking maybe $17-$20 usd), I will be figuring out what people want from the poll and doing a new design later in the week, and will be readyto start taking orders by next weekend, if all goes well...I will keep everyone up to date!
moab...

[zl900_moab]

So.....
The polls are showing that perhaps it should be something like this...Went with the 'Impact' font and the 'Eliminator' script inside the outline.
also just one small www.zl-oa.com (http://www.zl-oa.com) on the back at the top....Sorry the pics are so bad, again, quick cellphone shots.
Please let me know.
I think they will be very classy and yet make a definate statement, all over the world!
moab...

[Prostreet]

Thats as close as perfect for me. Maybe " kawasaki" somewhere on the front lower right in smaller fonts ?? Good job!! Click on my picture album in the above right for my addition to the shirt. I think it adds a nice touch.

[K-Ray]

So.....
The polls are showing that perhaps it should be something like this...Went with the 'Impact' font and the 'Eliminator' script inside the outline.
also just one small www.zl-oa.com (http://www.zl-oa.com) on the back at the top....Sorry the pics are so bad, again, quick cellphone shots.
Please let me know.
I think they will be very classy and yet make a definate statement, all over the world!
moab...

you got my vote all I need to know is how much and who do I send the money too ?

[rkerg]

Looks great, can't wait to get one. Thanks for all the work you did putting this together.

[wuputt]

Awesome!

[Don Fonzarelli]

Yessssssssssssssssssss :headbang:

[zl900_moab]

PM me what you want for sizes and quantities, price again should be $15.00usd for the US and prolly $17-20usd for those overseas...I will reply to those individuals that order with info as to where to send the money and when.

I will be putting 'By Kawasaki' under the front logo in the 'Impact' font on the final product.

moab...

[Prostreet]

http://www.zl-oa.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=118&pictureid=1439

[GGRA]

I agree with Prostreet, I think Kawasaki needs to be on there somewhere. I tweeked the location though.

I also mocked up a design for fun. I scanned my patch and cropped off the text and picture and played around with the pieces.

Thanks for bringing this up Moab, I will definitely take one!

[Jarney]

Nice. GGRA's looks very good too. Thanks again. Later.

[kawboy]

Nice. GGRA's looks very good too. Thanks again. Later.

I like that too - but prefer the outline rather than the pic of the bike. Just needs zl-oa.com on it.

[Prostreet]

I agree with Prostreet, I think Kawasaki needs to be on there somewhere. I tweeked the location though.

I also mocked up a design for fun. I scanned my patch and cropped off the text and picture and played around with the pieces.

Thanks for bringing this up Moab, I will definitely take one!




I had that front kawasaki as my second choice. I do happen to like what Moab did with the back, though. The front is perfect...just needs the kawasaki word in there.

[ZLFancyPaint]

I'm wondering if anyone else thinks the 'bad news travels fast'
is a bit too large on the back?
I think it makes the shirt, its just so big.

I really like the front, especially with the 'by kawasaki'.

[zlMark]

Here's what I'm picturing.....

On the front:
ZL-OA.COM all caps or preferably a copy of the outline I use in the site header (i have) small placed on the left breast

The back:
Kawasaki across the top done with correct kawasaki red lettering found on www.kawasaki.com (http://www.kawasaki.com) then the zl900 silhouette with the "Eliminator" script in it lowered from what I have seen.

[rkerg]

I agree with Prostreet, I think Kawasaki needs to be on there somewhere. I tweeked the location though.

I also mocked up a design for fun. I scanned my patch and cropped off the text and picture and played around with the pieces.

Thanks for bringing this up Moab, I will definitely take one!

A lot of good ideas. Whatever you finally decide, I want one.

[GGRA]

I agree with ZLFancypaint, the "Bad News Travels Fast" should be smaller. I kind of like Mark's idea too.

Does anyone have a copy of the silhouette they can post?

[zlMark]

Here's what I'm picturing.....

On the front:
ZL-OA.COM all caps or preferably a copy of the outline I use in the site header (i have) small placed on the left breast

The back:
Kawasaki across the top done with correct kawasaki red lettering found on www.kawasaki.com (http://www.kawasaki.com) then the zl900 silhouette with the "Eliminator" script in it lowered from what I have seen.I have a shot of the kawasaki logo attached.

Suggestion for new site slogan:
Instead of Kawasaki's "Let the good times roll" how about "Lets Roll a Good Time!" :rotf: I know Blag and Lowlife will like it! :laughing7:

[Prostreet]

Mark That is what i was intending for the red lettering, but couldn't find it. (but with out the let the good times roll) otherwise thats what should be on the front.

[Jarney]

Poor silhouette for ya. Later.

[zlMark]

Poor silhouette for ya. Later.

Does anyone have blagadans silhouette with the wheels connected?

[CHRIS]

i have a few silhuettes, but nothing with wheels connected ! SORRY ! CHRIS

[Jarney]

I can't seem to find the one of the 900 but here is a poor one of the 1000 that you might be able to modify?

[Stormy]

...just to throw a spanner in the works, how's this for the front of the shirt.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zl-oasticker01_3.jpg

[Prostreet]

Wow! I'm very impressed. Great job, Stormy!

[zlMark]

...just to throw a spanner in the works, how's this for the front of the shirt.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zl-oasticker01_3.jpg

Looks familiar

[Stormy]

I'm not taking credit for that image, I think it was Rick_in_WA's, but I just thought I'd throw it in for argument's sake.

I still have all the concept images from when we were deciding on the final layout for the patches, including all the "Eliminator" and zl-oa.com script's, fonts, bike images (ZL900 & ZL1000), "Kawasaki" OEM script, plus heaps more concept designs for stickers, etc, that everyone here had forwarded for consideration.

If anyone wants those images to get their creative juices flowing, they are welcome to use them.

Mick.

[slash]

i would be in for a couple shirts!

[DSBeav]

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zl-oasticker01_3.jpg

I'd like this for the front of the shirt. I'd be up for a few of these.

[Prostreet]

Beautiful!

[justin jackson]

I'd like this for the front of the shirt. I'd be up for a few of these.
I'd take one also- and one in long sleeves if thats an option also

[Prostreet]

Someone put a lot of work on this one! So far, THE best front design IMHO!

[jmac]

...just to throw a spanner in the works, how's this for the front of the shirt.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zl-oasticker01_3.jpg


That would also look good on the back,full size.
I'll take a 3xl when ever this happens.

[Stormy]

Mark That is what i was intending for the red lettering, but couldn't find it. (but with out the let the good times roll) otherwise thats what should be on the front.

Prostreet,

The "Kawasaki" OEM lettering is just the "Arial Black" font, in bold, like this;

Kawasaki

[Stormy]

...here's another couple (these are full versions, I can't make them any larger);

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zl-oasticker02.jpg

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zl-oasticker01.jpg

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zl-oasticker01_2.jpg

I did have some other designs for hats as well;

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zloahat.jpg


http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zloahat_flame.jpg

[Don Fonzarelli]

Wow, I like that first cap :headbang:
But they never seem to come in the right size .................

[Stormy]

I've had some dealings with doing baseball hats with my local bike club that I'm a member of.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ulysses/scchat_front.jpghttp://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ulysses/scchat_back.jpg

I get them embroidered, they don't cost much, once the initial setup fee's are paid for, then the cost per hat comes down fairly quickly, usually around the $25.00AUD mark.

[Don Fonzarelli]

Cool,
if they come in a fitted size 7 3/8 I'm a happy biker. :headbang:

[Stormy]

I know fitted sizes are all the rage, but they are difficult to get hold of, especially for such a small lot purchase (under 100 items is small), plus it put's the price per item up considerably, usually it's a "one size fit's all", asian made, adjustable velcro or buckle strap.

But I'm not going to do anything like organising these to be made, as the initial cost of setting it all up, plus I'll have to bear the brunt of the manufacturing cost's until people start paying, not to mention additional shipping costs to the U.S, Europe or wherever, is just a bit too much for my finances to bear at present, as I'm between work contracts, again...

I have to leave this sort of thing to more financially secure members to organise, at present...

[Prostreet]

As far as Stormy's 3 diff renderings, I personally feel for the front, that the the least amount of writing under the bike siloette the better. The very first post you had with the flames is the best one for me. Attractive and simple. The 3rd pic with all the writing would be best suited for the back in my opinion. Just my 2 cents.
BTW, those hats are awesome.

[Blagadán]

...just to throw a spanner in the works, how's this for the front of the shirt.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zl-oasticker01_3.jpg

Holy sh*t, That is AWSOME!!!

Front of the shirt or back, who cares. That is it for me, right there... Lovin the flames in the background. I dont remember seein that one before!

[rkerg]

As far as Stormy's 3 diff renderings, I personally feel for the front, that the the least amount of writing under the bike siloette the better. The very first post you had with the flames is the best one for me. Attractive and simple. The 3rd pic with all the writing would be best suited for the back in my opinion. Just my 2 cents.
BTW, those hats are awesome.

I agree and will go further to suggest no writing under bike. Put all the information on the back of the shirt because, if we wear them while riding, the back of the shirt is all most folks will see.

BTW, I love the hats too.

[SandstoneSmitty]

Guys,

You are doing great with the T-shirt design. Keep it up. I like the ZL-OA on the front and the flames on the zl in the bike on the back. Keep it simple.

Stormy,
I like the hat idea. I like the emblem on the last one, but loose the flames. It reminds me of that sissy Jeff Gordan's Rainbow Warrior. Please do not get me started on why I dislike Gordan!!!! That is for another thread....

[cd85]

LOVE THE FLAMES AND BIKE LOGO:headbang: I would definately rock this "T" anywhere and proudly!!!

[Jarney]

Yeah, dejavu.....again.....

This is where these types of threads always go - too many ideas and too hard to get a definite design and agreement on everything. I like the flame design as well, some of Stormy's hats looked good also. These polls could go on forever with more and more ideas popping up all the time. Maybe another poll should be started - Put the different designs in some sort of order - 1st run of shirts would be the best one listed in the poll options above. The 2nd run of shirts would be the best of the flame designs. The 3rd run could be hats, etc,etc,etc,etc............It's just an idea. Otherwise we may never come to enough of an agreement to actually get this thing done - it will wind up like all the other "shirt threads" in the past and just die off or never happen. Later.

[zlMark]

HEHE,, moab is probably crapping his pants right now

[Blagadán]

HEHE,, moab is probably crapping his pants right now

He did mention "opening pandoras box" in the original post didn't he... lol.

Keep it goin Moab, you're doing great...

[GGRA]

I LOVE Stormy's first flame design with the ZL_OA.com below. I think that with maybe a small Kawasaki in red, centered a little below the neck on the back would be awesome. I really only need one, but I'd probably take 2!:headbang:

I also think Jarney is right though, a poll to decide which design is going to be "the" design is going to be required to get this done. Please bare with us Moab, I think were all a bit over excited:toothy9:

[Prostreet]

Agreed ! I think at this point we need to take another poll with the 4 different designs that we ended up with. By the weekend we should have a winner.

[Stormy]

Sorry about throwing more spanners in the works guys and especially moab, with newer members since we got the patches made, I thought I'd show the designs from then, but as usual, I screwed things up with too many choices.

When deciding on a final design, it's a bit like a kid in a toy shop, way too many choices and not enough cash.

Maybe a competition to settle on the final design rather than just another poll, as you'll be constantly chasing a better design, maybe someone outside of zl-oa to judge, like someone's partner or riding buddy. And everyone must agree that the decision is final, no what if's or maybe's.

This was the reason why SD and I went ahead on our own and got the patches made, 'cause it would have taken forever to reach a final decision.

just my 2 cents worth...

[rkerg]

As far as I am concerned, it is Moabs choice because he is the one stepping out and doing the work and taking the risk. Everyone has an opinion and there have been a lot of good ideas but it might be impossible to incorporate everyones idea into one t shirt. Anyway it doesn't have to be juat one T shirt. It could be a series of T shirts. Dont let the perfect be the enemy of the good is all I am saying.

[Prostreet]

No dissin intended, but I would think with a vote that more can be ordered= less price= more sold. Nothing worse than a closet full of t-shirts that only one or two members purchased!

[kawboy]

As far as I am concerned, it is Moabs choice because he is the one stepping out and doing the work and taking the risk. Everyone has an opinion and there have been a lot of good ideas but it might be impossible to incorporate everyones idea into one t shirt. Anyway it doesn't have to be just one T shirt. It could be a series of T shirts.

Dont let the perfect be the enemy of the good is all I am saying.

I agree. This could go on forever. We have the poll results, let moab do the one he wants. I'll buy one (black XL please), and I'll buy one of the next design too.

rkerg - never heard that saying but I like it.

[jmac]

Good point guys.Moab is taking the time to do this.He should have the final decision.

If you make it we will buy it.

[Stormy]

yep, I concur with you guys, it's up to moab what he thinks is the best design, I'll definately go along with it, I'll even buy a couple of shirts too !!!

I would like to make one additional suggestion though, I'd prefer a round neck, long sleeved, fleecy top version (smooth cotton outside, and polar type, fleecy material on the inside, we call them "sweat shirts" or "sloppy joe's" or "windcheaters" here in Oz) .

I ride in all seasons here in Oz and I usually wear a fleecy top under my riding jacket or carry one with me rolled up in the saddlebags when riding, and I probably speak for the U.K / European guys as well, when I say 90% of my bike riding is done in less than ideal conditions, usually cold, early mornings and late afternoons, to and from work or at night.

T-shirts would still be good, but having the fleecy top as an additional option would be even better.

Mick.

[Wyldstreak]

I'll probably take one of each!! It's going to be hard, no doubt, and others have said it before me - moab started it, he should be the one to decide what the course is. If he wants a poll, I'll vote. If he wants a contest, I'll compete. If he wants to say "Here are your choices, be happy", I'll order some.

Hey, I just want some cool shirts. . . :rotf: :rotf::hello:


Just my dime's worth. Inflation, ya know. . . . :laughing7:

[Blagadán]

Hail Moab, Hail Moab!!!

I also agree with the guys above. Too many cooks in the **** kitchen!!!:rotf:

Let me know where to send the money Moab, I'll take whatever you decide is right for the elimination... and I'll be proud to wear it!

[edd]

i really like a shirt or 2 too,whatever design you come up with moab.
and i prefer long sleeves......





:laughing7: whispers; (the flames Moab,the flames) :winkcool:

[CHRIS]

i agree ! we have been on this t-shirt issue a few times, & though everyone's opinion is great, & everyone wants a shirt a certain way, we can never come up with a design to make everyone totally happy, & the shirt idea does'nt go through !!! i trust that moab, & zlmark will come up with a good shirt design. i will be in for several shirts, just based on zl-oa, & eliminator somewhere on shirt. just want to proudly promote our zl-oa family, & our beloved eliminators. CHRIS :headbang:

[cd85]

I agree with Chris! I am pretty new to the site and I gotta tell ya: I can't wait to get up int the a.m. and get on the zl site! hate to say it but my wife was right... This whole "ZL THING" has become my new addiction! Is this a bad thing?:rotf::rotf::rotf:

[zl900_moab]

FLAMES or NO FLAMES???
That seems to be the question...I came up with the design that I did becuse it was simple and noone seemed to want to step up to the plate, so to speak....I like the flame design, but, we need to crap or get off the pot here, summer is fading fast and by the time I try to please everyone it's gonna be next summer, and still everyone will not be happy....I thank those that acknowleged the fact that I am taking my time on this deal, but, I do want these to sell, and I want people to like them, the opinions of EVERYONE on this site are very important to me....I will do 1 more poll, for 1 week, and the winner is the winner...
Do keep in mind that the "flame" design will cost slightly more due to multiple colors being used, but I don't think it will be prohibitive by any means.
I will get this poll setup as my schedule allows, I am in a long streak at work, but I'll probably get it up by the end of the weekend, the poll again will be for 1 week only and the winner is the winner, love it or lump it.

I did say it was gonna be Pandora's Box didn't I???

cd85, it is NOT a bad thing, at all....I got bit by the ZL bug and I think it planted eggs and flew off to get you!

Poll will be up shortly with the proposed designs....1 week only!

moab...

[ZLFancyPaint]

I will do 1 more poll, for 1 week, and the winner is the winner...

Poll will be up shortly with the proposed designs....1 week only!

moab...

very diplomatic, great idea. :tshirt:

[CHRIS]

I can't wait to get up int the a.m. and get on the zl site! hate to say it but my wife was right... This whole "ZL THING" has become my new addiction! Is this a bad thing?:rotf::rotf::rotf: :rotf:i have the same addiction ! can't say it is all bad !!!! took my wife a few years to cave in, & accept it !!!!:rotf: CHRIS

[Overkill]

Sorry i've been away for a while but definately interested in a shirt, thanks for the effort guys. Will PM size when final design agreed.

[GGRA]

We are all with you Moab, thanks again for bringing it up and following through, even with all our BS!! :hello2:

[zlMark]

These attachments are closer to the shirts I will order. I'd like the Kawasaki closer to the collar like on my GF's shirt which is a kawasaki girls shirt (http://www.kawasaki.com/KawasakiNew/Accessories2/PCItemDetail.aspx?ItemNumber=K0172510BK2X&Reason=6&intCatalogID=1&intCatalogType=3&ProductTypeID=145&CategoryId=33) with a rhinestone outline in case you see one at the dealer. :thumbsup: