80's Power Cruiser Shootout! [Archive]

zlMark

08-18-2009, 10:51 PM

After chatting with Utah Eliminator, we thought we would see what kind of interest there would be in having a day at the drags in the year 2010. We could possibly make a weekend out of it?? We have members on the east and west coast who would attend this so a central location would be a must as well as a fast dragstrip with good quality air. A search for fast dragstrips brings me this:
http://www.brainerdraceway.com/track-info/dragstrip.html

A centrally located track that comes to mind is Heartland Park in Topeka:
http://hpt.com/ which is approx 1200-1300mi from Pottsville PA and Phoenix AZ.

This track here might be better for us than Heartland Park Topeka.
http://www.srcadragstrip.com/ 

Lets hear it!

CHRIS

08-18-2009, 11:57 PM

i may be interested, & could possibly haul a few of us east coast members & bikes to the track, but it would all depend on finalized date. :headbang: CHRIS

paulfun

08-19-2009, 12:07 AM

doubtfull a long run like that could be done yet this year for me!

guess I will have to settle for a couple of trips to one of my local tracks before the year is done! Hopefully we have good weather on sat so I can get a few passes in.

zlMark

08-19-2009, 07:23 AM

I added it's for next year

zlMark

08-19-2009, 07:28 AM

i may be interested, & could possibly haul a few of us east coast members & bikes to the track, but it would all depend on finalized date. :headbang: CHRISHell yeah,, that would save us all some $$

lowlife

08-20-2009, 08:11 AM

Lets see Brainerd huh....wow thats 4 hours away....not sure if I could make it:rotf:That would mean I would have to properly jet the ZL then huh?

Bacchus

08-20-2009, 08:59 AM

definately would be interested in doing this

wuputt

08-20-2009, 11:41 AM

I would most def be interested in that! Start planning now so we can do a weekend or a week. Camping on site would be a plus as would interesting local roads! BIR definitly fits those requirements. There are a lot of resorts close by, we could get a couple cabins on a lake but they fill up early so reservations need to be made well in advance!

jmac

08-21-2009, 01:37 AM

What about Indy?(I think they have a fun nite once a month)
Does it have to be a 1/4?There is some nice 1/8 mile tracks around here.I know the local one here can be rented for the day.(depends on the time of year if it is open for sat or sun)

I think it would make for a fun weekend.

zlMark

08-30-2009, 06:20 PM

Really like to keep this centrally located in the USA so it would be do-able for everyone thats willing to drive a good day!

This track here might be better for us than Heartland Park Topeka.
http://www.srcadragstrip.com/

zlMark

10-03-2009, 08:53 AM

I'll be chatting with my old buddy "Nitrotaz" who is a member here about the SRCA dragstrip (http://www.srcadragstrip.com/). Would like to know a little more about the facility and the possibility of renting the track for a day.

This could be even more do-able with the vmax guys, or a 80's muscle bike shootout and include the V65 group too!! Oh yea baby we gotta do this! I'm gonna add a poll to see who would really come to this.

zlMark

11-25-2009, 08:15 PM

Bump! Read the above post #11 Muscle Bike Shootout

texas-ss-tornado

11-25-2009, 08:57 PM

Count me in, I'm going to bring a stock V65 Magna and show Paulfun nothing but tail lights! :rotf:

Seriously, this is a great idea and I would gladly take a weeks vacation and trailer 3 or 4 of my bikes up there, it would be the event of the summer!!!!!

zlMark

11-25-2009, 09:06 PM

Seriously, this is a great idea and I would gladly take a weeks vacation and trailer 3 or 4 of my bikes up there, it would be the event of the summer!!!!!Run it by the V65 and VMax boards and see if you can drum up some interest!

texas-ss-tornado

11-25-2009, 09:11 PM

Run it by the V65 and VMax boards and see if you can drum up some interest!
Will do! Can we at least pick a month??? May or June would be my preference, can't do anything around the July 4th holiday though, I usually spend 2 or 3 weeks in northern KY every year!!!

zlMark

11-25-2009, 09:16 PM

Northern KY? Dragway42 is only 4 hrs away. VMD '10 is the following weekend

texas-ss-tornado

11-25-2009, 09:43 PM

Northern KY? Dragway42 is only 4 hrs away. VMD '10 is the following weekend

Yea, but that couple weeks vacation is a family thing and we are ALWAYS busy, in fact, we never have enough time to see everyone and do all the things we want to do. Trailering the bikes up there wouldn't be a good idea, my wife would shoot me. If we do it in Kansas, I can take the time off and go with a buddy of mine and it will be ALOT more fun, just the guys, a few beers, scantily clad women.........etc. Know what I mean? :rotf:

zlMark

12-02-2009, 09:05 AM

OK, time to stop all the smack talk and start making plans. Who will attend and how do you feel about the location... SRCA Dragstrip (http://www.srcadragstrip.com/)

NO MORE SMACK TALK IN THIS THREAD.

Like I said in another post, i'm done deleting posts it's time to nip it at the bud!

texas-ss-tornado

12-02-2009, 10:33 AM

I'm there. Name the place and time. I'd prefer something close to Texas, but will travel as far as KY. Can't be too close to the July 4th holiday, I'd say I would need a week on either side of that date to stay married. Other than that, count me in. I will bring a V65 Magna, a VMAX, a ZL900 and a ZL1000. All BONE STOCK! I will even let distinguished members here make a few runs, as long as you agree to "you wreck, you own", gentlemens agreement! I won't hold it against you if the bike blows up though, unless you miss a shift, and we'll have video to prove it! I think this is going to be an AWESOME event, I can't wait!!!!! :headbang:

WillyD

12-02-2009, 11:11 AM

I am in....Dunno bout racin...depends on if I get my bike(s) to the local strip by then...That's the plan anyway....Would be cool to go and be there anyway...

Willy

Wissler

12-02-2009, 11:46 AM

I'm in.........

texas-ss-tornado

12-02-2009, 05:55 PM

Now posted on the Honda V4 forum AND the VMAX forum, seems to be gathering steam! I'd post on a Madura forum, but don't want to be accused of slumming............ :rotf:

http://www.vmaxforum.net/showthread.php?t=10554

zlMark

12-02-2009, 06:17 PM

Cool! Thanks!

Read the response about stock bikes on the vmax link above. I would like to see some stock examples just to see the ET's produced which is what that whole other thread was about. Of course some modified bikes on site will be good too.

zlMark

12-02-2009, 06:20 PM

Is this the only madura forum out there?
http://www.lk3000.com/madura/

If so I will try contacting the admin

jmac

12-02-2009, 11:27 PM

This could turn out to be the start of something big.What kind of dates are we thinking about.?

zlMark

12-02-2009, 11:34 PM

gonna talk to Taz tomorow, will get the track details etc

Bacchus

12-03-2009, 08:20 AM

the guy who responded on the vmax fourm who goes by "one to the max" is definately the guy to get connected with on this. his name is sean morely, and he builds custom vmax's and aftermarket vmax products. He has participated in organizing similar events for the vmax riders group.

sean is an incredibly good guy who I have spoken with many times and purchased product from. his customer support and williness to assist others in building thier project bikes is top notch. get hooked up tight with sean on this, and you can count on vmax owner participation.

ZLmark you should definately talk with sean! 316-619-8411

going through vmax fourms.net and sean morely is definately the way to go.....the riders in that users group are not stuck up and stupid like they are at the "official" yamaha vmax owners association, and there seems to be alot more interest and activity at vmaxfourm.net than there is at the official yamaha vmax site

Bacchus

12-04-2009, 08:29 AM

I think the list of bikes for this event is currently, at least in my mind...

1. kawasaki ---zl9\10, kz
2. yamaha ----vmax, 1100 maxim
3 susuki-------madura
4. honda------v4's, magna, sabre

keep in mind if this event includes the kz crowd it will definately add alot of potential participants and vintage bikes however.....the kz has been the foundation of drag bikes forever, and if you want to huge power gains there are many, many, products available to the kz rider in current production, so these guys will be able to bring serious fire power to the event and it is very possible a kz would be the fastest bike.

aslo wondering if there should be a 600 &\or 750 class? this would also serve to include additional bikes and riders....

I'm thinking that some brain storming is necessary to clearly establish the guidlines for the event are in order....

including kz's will also open the event up to pre-1980 bikes...might be a good thing.... more cross-over appeal = more people

there are other really cool first generation crotch rockets, one example would be the fj1200, saw one on the street the other day...including these first gen. crotch rockets would again add crossover appeal and expand the event but it might change the atmosphere or characture of it.

somehow it seems as though the crotch rocket and the cruser crowd dont really hang together very often...maybe the event could begin to change that by way of the 80's (or earlier) vintage theme..

texas-ss-tornado

12-04-2009, 08:48 AM

The more the merrier, but if you're going to add the KZ crowd, I'd invite the Suzuki GS guys too!

Bacchus

12-04-2009, 09:06 AM

GS is a crotch rocket.....I think we have to decide whether or not to include CR bikes

zlMark

12-04-2009, 09:12 AM

I think if it's a cruiser with shaft drive then bring it....no V-Tweenies, no chains, no belts

texas-ss-tornado

12-04-2009, 10:07 AM

GS is a crotch rocket.....I think we have to decide whether or not to include CR bikes

Well, I see the GS as the equivalent of the KZ, in fact, those are still the main powerplants they use for drag racing to this day, correct? The big KZ1000 and GS1100 blocks? I don't know, we need to think about this and make sure we end up with the intended audience. This all started as V65 vs. Eliminator, so do we really want to bring in bikes that aren't really "muscle bikes" perse? If it were up to me, I would have two classes, stock and non-stock. All bikes would have to have been built between 80 and 90, I think we could make an exception for the VMAX's, because they were basically the same from 1985 - 2007 with the oldest ones actually being a little faster. I mean, shoot, we're not going to stop anybody from bringing whatever and racing, but the grudge matches that we are intending to settle will just have to be lined up and policed by ourselves, we know which bikes are on "equal" footing, and which are not, and that will provide the best races. If we call it the 80's muscle bike shootout, we can let it be known ANY older Japanese bikes are "allowed" to participate, we'll just have to make sure we have a good handle on which bikes will be racing each other. Some other bikes that "might" participate that aren't "officially" muscle bikes would be the 83 Honda CB1100F, 80-82 Honda CB900F, the Honda CBX, Kawasaki KZ900, KZ1000, KZ1100, KZ1300, GPZ900, GPZ1000, GPZ1100, Yamaha XS1100 and of course, the turbo bikes, Yamaha Seca Turbo, Honda CX500 or CX650 turbo, Suzuki XN85 turbo, GPZ750 turbo etc..........we could be opening up a big can of worms here, but my take is invite them all, and see who shows up. We'll make sure the right bikes race each other and I'm sure it will all work itself out in the end!

justin jackson

12-04-2009, 11:33 AM

This sounds like it's going to be a full-on bike show. If i doesn't clash with my already planned vacations I'll be there. Been looking forward to meeting you fellas for some time now.

CHRIS

12-04-2009, 02:11 PM

I think if it's a cruiser with shaft drive then bring it....no V-Tweenies, no chains, no belts i agree !!! we have to draw a line somewhere, otherwise it'll just turn into a circus,& people will just show up with anything. it'll take away from the whole reason this idea was thought up to begin with !!!!!!! CHRIS

texas-ss-tornado

12-04-2009, 03:30 PM

CHRIS

12-04-2009, 04:04 PM

I wouldn't argue with shaft drive bikes only, that would eliminator a bunch of KZ's and GS's...........but would also eliminate all the GPZ's. I don't know, maybe we need to put it to a vote, get everyone's opinion????

i hear what you are saying TSST, i love GPZ's but technically they are not cruisers. a vote could be cool, but--- look how long it took to get t-shirt idea's narrowed down, & in the end no shirts ! i think ultimately the decision should be ZLMark's this way,the event will happen this coming year. not everyone will be totally happy, but at least we can keep it " 80's Power Cruiser Shootout ! "

jmac

12-05-2009, 12:32 AM

paulfun

12-05-2009, 08:18 AM

I think all you need is 2 class's.Stock and modified.It should be more of a track day,than actual races.That should keep everyone happier,and getting along.I think "80's muscle bikes" covers what should be there.(jmo)

I put this on another post,should have put it here.

The shaft drive might be a easy way to limit the type of bikes.

We will also have to come up with the track safety rules,(snell rated helmet,jacket,and such)Not all tracks are the same.Also if they have to tech the bikes.Some tracks do,and some don't.Just so know one is surprised when they show up.

No need to worry about track rules. The track will dictate the rider safety rules to us! They will even if we have rented the track still have to do thier tech inspection which will include your safety gear. And they will have thier people do it and run the actual racing.

Bacchus

12-05-2009, 08:28 AM

Im thinking ....anything 80's and see who shows up....classifications could be sport & street, stock and modified

zlMark

12-07-2009, 12:38 PM

SRCA dragstrip rules: (http://www.srcadragstrip.com/rules.html)

Motorcycles
ET Break - 7.50 seconds and slower ¼ mile (ELECTRONICS PERMITTED if running in MC or S/Pro.)
Valid NHRA Competition License Mandatory on Bikes running quicker than 9.99
Gasoline or racing gasoline only. Nitro methane prohibited
Full-face helmet with shield meeting M2000 - M2005 – K2005 – SA2000 – SA2005 SFI 31.2A or 41.2A mandatory. No goggles permitted.
Full leathers mandatory on Motorcycles running quicker than 120 MPH SFI Spec 40.114
Jacket and pants or suit meeting SFI Spec 40.1/1 or 40.1/2 (or leather jacket),
Leather boots/shoes above the ankle and leather gloves mandatory on all motorcycles
Motorcycles must break beams under own power.
For more information see NHRA 2009 rule book
Bikes may run with cars in S/Pro, Pro, Sportsman

Anyone have access to the NHRA 2010 Rulebook?

EORNitrotaz

12-07-2009, 03:47 PM

Hello Mark. You have a pm. I believe if you are an NHRA member they now have the rule book online.

Michael Carlson
SRCA Treasurer

zlMark

12-07-2009, 06:24 PM

Hey Texas, can you give me an idea of how many racers might be attending from the other boards? I saw the thread on the vmaxforum, but v4 board is locked down.

texas-ss-tornado

12-07-2009, 09:13 PM

Hey Texas, can you give me an idea of how many racers might be attending from the other boards? I saw the thread on the vmaxforum, but v4 board is locked down.

About half a dozen so far, but nobody is going to commit until we get a firm date and location published, heck, I can't even commit if it's a date I can't work around. I have a yearly family vacation in Kentucky around the July 4th holiday, so as long as it doesn't interfere with that, I'm good. Once we publish the date and location, we'll start a head count, I will probably be bringing a couple of people with me also!

zlMark

12-07-2009, 10:20 PM

Half dozen? is that the vmax board and V65 boards combined? I'd like to shoot for SRCA in the 1st thru 3rd weekends in June.

texas-ss-tornado

12-07-2009, 10:25 PM

Half dozen? is that the vmax board and V65 boards combined? I'd like to shoot for SRCA in the 1st thru 3rd weekends in June.
No, half a dozen from the V65 board, and trust me, that number will likely double or triple once the date and time is confirmed!!!!!

zlMark

01-08-2010, 11:26 AM

I'm putting this on hold unless someone else is willing to take this over. I'm un-employed and it would be irresponsible for me to plan a event like this with an uncertain future!

I can say that it would be very do-able locally,,lol

texas-ss-tornado

01-08-2010, 11:29 AM

zlMark

01-08-2010, 11:32 AM

LOL,,cause I want it to be in OHIO now :biggrin:......... Just kidding

Thought about talking to Jon Cornell about this but i'm sure he is swamped with the new V-Max. Who was it? Sean Morely?

texas-ss-tornado

01-08-2010, 12:51 PM

LOL,,cause I want it to be in OHIO now :biggrin:......... Just kidding

Thought about talking to Jon Cornell about this but i'm sure he is swamped with the new V-Max. Who was it? Sean Morely?

Yep.........I wouldn't mind it being in Ohio really, got lots of family up there!!!!!

CHRIS

01-08-2010, 01:25 PM

the only problem i'm facing is, if the shootout takes place in Kansas, it'll leave me with facing the decision of being there in june, or M/O in july !? can't do both this year !!!

i was supposed to start a new job on jan. 4 , but got booted out by a senior employee that wanted the position i was to be hired in. he threatened to go to his union !, so, i'm on the job hunting thing again !:roll: