ZLoa Logo designs

[Stormy]

Well, I've been playing with a few designs for ZLoa (as previously discussed in the license plate cover thread) and these are what I've come up with so far.

They are primarily for use as a back patch or for a screen printed T-Shirt, but you could use the design to be embroidered into a cloth patch or incorporated into a metal badge.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design1.jpg

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design2.jpg

I like the bottom one, but, what do you all reckon?

Mick.

[zlMark]

Mick,,,nice. i have eliminator fonts, i'll send them to ya.

[panther]

I prefer the latter also. :)

[Stormy]

yeah, that would be excellent, zlmark, I tried to find a similar font to the eliminator decal on the net unsuccessfully, so I used a chrome lettering font instead, it was close, but I'm not happy with it as some of the letters just aren't right, like the Z for instance, it comes out like a backward S.

Mick.

[SnakeDoctor]

the line under the ZLOA portion doesn't look good as it makes some letters like W and N not clear. Even the Association looks like ASS first. Sorry to be blunt.

I do like the bike and the ELIMINATOR portion though.

[Stormy]

yeah, i know what you mean snakedoctor, I'm not very happy with the font at all, but I was hoping someone here might have or know of the right font, which zlmark, does, still it was the over all concept I was after approval for.

Mick.

[zlMark]

msn messenger?

[Stormy]

I'm online now

[STARMIX]

I think it looks real nice overall. Just the line underneath as most have already said. Good job.

[CHRIS]

i like them both, but if i had to choose, the second one takes my vote !!
"NICE JOB ! " :D

[Stormy]

ok, heres the next evolution of the logo designs. Thanks go to zlmark for the added suggestions and the eliminator fonts.

Design 3

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design3_web.jpg

Design 4

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design4_web.jpg

Design 5

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design5_web.jpg

I'm leaning towards designs 3 & 5.

Any suggestions?

Mick.

[SnakeDoctor]

Have to have the dash in the website listing: WWW.ZL-OA.com

[CHRIS]

good job mick ! i like design 5 the best !!!! CHRIS

[Stormy]

oh ****, thanks for reminding me snakedoctor.

Thanks chris.

[zlMark]

Yea 3 and 5 looks good, if i was to chose one or the other i'd choose 6 which is the one that looks like 5 but has a - in it :rotf:

[Stormy]

I've made the adaptions. If you go back to the last page and refresh the page, you should see the new versions now.

Mick.

[panther]

5 Works for me too. :D

[STARMIX]

Yup, 5 looks the best to me. Very simple and sharp... Well done!!

[SnakeDoctor]

I think 3 stands out more than 5 and depending on what color you background is, will look better with the white inside the red.

[zl900_moab]

I like 5, it's sweetness!
moab...

[Jarney]

How about good old kwaker colors

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z44/JarneyK/zloabutton.jpg

[Stormy]

I like your design, jarney, it's simple and get's the message across.

I thought about using kawasaki green, but I was trying to keep with the age of the bike too, from memory, kawasaki was using red in their name logos then, I could be wrong.

I placed the No 3 design on a white background, and it works, but I like the No 5 design the best, personally.

I know that you've got to be careful about using a name like Kawasaki in any logos, as the name is a world-wide trade mark, and therefore copyrighted, so to avoid future problems, I've omitted it from the Logo, still, I would assume the word "Eliminator" would be copyrighted too, especially in that style of font, so maybe we may have to get permission from kawasaki to use it, eh?

Mick.

[Jarney]

Good point on the copyright crap Stormy. Here's some other ideas. I think Rick did the banner we have on the site, maybe he can come up with some more ideas.


IMG]http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z44/JarneyK/zl9006negativea.jpg[/IMG]

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z44/JarneyK/zl9006emboss.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z44/JarneyK/zl9006embossa.jpg

[Jarney]

OOOPPPSSSS, That first one screwed up, I didn't copy and paste it right.


http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z44/JarneyK/zl9006negativea.jpg

[Stormy]

...after thinking about the Kawasaki logo copyrights and trade marks, and since the consensus is between No 3 design and No 5 designs, I thought, hey stuff it, so I adapted them to suit my original intentions.

By the way, all this was done with a combination of MS Paint and Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0 with a Pentium III, 500MHz Intel processor coupled with 512Mb RAM and using the Windows 98SE Operating System and a hell of a lot of playing.

No 6 Design

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design6_web.jpg

No 7 Design

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design7_web.jpg

Mick.

[Jarney]

Boy, that's a tough call. I like the outline look of #6 but the lettering stands out a little better on #7. They both look really good Stormy. Kawasaki won't give us any info on our bikes - they should at least let us use the names on our logos - hey, it's free advertising for them - hahaha. Later.

[Kawasaki-krazy]

You probably won't run into any copyright issues if the name 'Kawasaki' is displayed on the bike as in Jarneys pics. Its only a copyright issue if the name refers to some other product.

KK

[zlMark]

Looking good guys.

[wuputt]

I like what you guys are doing! I would probably purchase ANY product with these logo's on it!

[Rick_in_WA]

ditch all the words, useing just ZLOA would be cleaner and less "in your face"
just my opinion.

[Rocket]

Guys,
Here's a thought I’d like to through into the discussion. As far as I am aware Kawasaki Eliminator’s come in the following models:

BN125 Eliminator
EL250 Eliminator
VN250 Eliminator
ZL400 Eliminator
ZL600 Eliminator
ZL750 Eliminator
ZL900 Eliminator
ZL1000 Eliminator

Now I understand the ZL900 is probably the model with the highest production number, but why should we always brand the “Eliminator� with the profile of the ZL900? Can we not use a silhouette that is more inclusive of all ZL’s rather than exclusive of those not of 900cc? As an example, nobody in Australia has ever seen a ZL900 on our roads (except perhaps for grey imports) because they were never imported by Kawasaki Australia. I for one would like to see something that is identifiable with all models 400cc to 1000cc. I take it as a given that the site is “ZL-OA�, and I’ll accept the 125 and 250 eliminators listed above are excluded for this reason, or is that unfortunate oversight when the site was given its "ZL..." moniker?).

Please don’t get me wrong but is this a “ZL� Eliminator site or a ZL900 site?

Stormy, I like your ideas thus far, great work. I do like the old KERA logo, any chance you could develop a similar background, not withstanding the silhouette issue above (perhaps something like this: http://www.csuchico.edu/~cheinz/syllabi/asst001/fall98/old/fireball.jpg)?

Now I’ll step back and read the responses with some trepidation…

[Rick_in_WA]

ditch all the words, useing just "ZLOA" would be cleaner and less "in your face" subtle always looks better I think
Not very keen on any of them, the outlined zl is cool. just my opinion.

[Rocket]

Oh, just another small point, if you wish to infer a sense of advancement the logo (whatever is chosen) should be orientated left to right as it is in the example in my link above (like the stock market trend line, onward and upward, left to right, bottom to top).

[Jarney]

Hello Rocket,
I simply use the 900 and 1000 in pics because they are readily available to me. That's what's in my manuals and what I can scan to my computer. I've never really looked closely at the 400, 600, or 750 to see what differences there would be in the silhouttes or outlines. These are just ideas, not really trying to push one particular model or size of zl off on someone as being the one to use in any banner, logo, etc. It's just what I had on the computer that was readily available to play with. I agree, it's a zl site - all models, sizes, etc, welcome. I like the pic on the link you posted. I'll play some more and see what happens. I'm no good at this stuff but I like playing with it when time permits - hahaha.

[Ferret]

Once all you "artsy-fartsy" creative types have finished adding your final flourishes to what will no doubt be an absolutely exquisite design :notworthy: :laughing6: ... just tell me how much and where to send it ... and I'll have 2x cloth patches with said design ... ta very muchly :victory: :laughing6: :puttside:

[Blagadán]

I'm sure we've been here before... lol..... but..... heres my 2c worth anyway...

I've always been kinda partial to a simple design...

heres one i did before...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u194/Blagadain/ZL-OA.jpg

...or for those of you that like the left to right format...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u194/Blagadain/ZL-OALtoR.jpg
(not sure this looks as good as the one above for some reason, maybe its got to do with the ZL lettering fitting in with the tank area in the 1st drawing?)

I'll take 2 patches too when the consensus is agreed!!

I see rockets point and there's no reason why there couldnt be an alternative patch with a zl6 image in the background behind the ZL-oa.com too? I spose the initial embroidery setup costs might be a factor? I like having some illustration of the type of bike in the background. I've seen several bike club patches and the ones that use an illustration of the bike as well as the text, look more interesting imho.
i think the majority of guys on the forum so far have zl9's or 1k's, the minority with 750 and 600's, maybe one or two 250's as far as i can recall? I dunno, I might be wrong... if who ever wants some zl6 images could dig some up, maybe it would help?

blag

[Blagadán]

Heres a pic of my bros CBX patch, highlighting the identifying feature of the bike on the patch below the text... this one is a bit old and fcked but it still holding up pretty well.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u194/Blagadain/CIMG0020Small.jpg

[zl900_moab]

Jarney,
I like the "negative" look alot, and I think the "Tough Guys Don't Dance" line needs to be there.
Just my opinion.
moab...

[Rick_in_WA]

I like the one blag uses/has, not that I know anything about graphics, but here is a twist on it: colors are optional
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image2-1.jpg

[panther]

I can see Rosco's point of view because technically the 125's and 250's aren't ZL's, but they are Eliminators.
Rick_in _WA, i like the idea of the world map behind the logo uniting us all but perhaps blood red is not the way to go, reminds me of my last ride..ha ha :)

[Rick_in_WA]

well the "red" is an option personaly on a patch I wouldnt mind Kawasaki green but thats just me.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image2b.jpg

[Stormy]

ok, Rick, hows these...

No 8 Design

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design8_web.jpg

No 9 Design

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design9_web.jpg

[Stormy]

with some views in mind I've had another go...

No 10 Design

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design10_web.jpg

No 11 Design

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design11_web.jpg

To clarify, why I'm using the ZL900 silhouette, instead of my ZL1000, it's because;
A: I like the bike's rear end configuration.
B: the majority of the users on this site own ZL900's
C: if you have an "Eliminator", you would instantly recognise the shape of a ZL900 and would identify the website with it.
D: it's the only bike I could get as an outline.

Mick.

[Rick_in_WA]

less is more, to clairify: the fewer lines to be used the cheeper it is to produce.
I dont feel that the "WWW" needs to be there if the .COM is used.
as for the outline. useing the basic outline of the standard ZL like the one blag posted you encompass many varied sizes.. we all know that the zl is just not only a 900. but yet we all have to conceed that the orig 85 900 is where it all began. . I dont care one way or anouther. I am just damn picky about anything I am gonna sew on my joe rocket.

[Stormy]

yep, I hear what your saying, rick, and that's the purpose of this thread, to hear concerns and to nut out what people want to put on their jackets, etc.

My intention was primarily for other forum members, other than me, to submit their logo designs, as well. I'm trying to stay focused on what I'd like, as well as incorporating other peoples ideas.

I understand about the need to keep manufacturing cost's down to a minimum, but I primarily was making a t-shirt design for screenprinting, not necessarily a cloth badge, I have absolutely no idea how to do a cloth badge design or where to start, mind due, I didn't have a clue about a t-shirt design either, but I stumbled through, and I still am.

I actually quite like your design, as a cloth badge, personally, I'd lose the world map, as it distracts from the simplicity of the design. I like blag's and your designs and I reckon something combined would be the best design for a cloth badge, it's modern and simple, my designs a bit old school.

Mick.

[Stormy]

...well, heres my very last design submissions for the logos, I've listened to all your concerns and ideas and now it's up to you, the members, to decide or not.

No 12 Design

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design12_web.jpg

No 13 Design

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design13_web.jpg

Mick.

[Rick_in_WA]

I put a front and rear on one image but hell I would buy this:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image156.jpg

[zlMark]

Guys,
Here's a thought I’d like to through into the discussion. As far as I am aware Kawasaki Eliminator’s come in the following models:

BN125 Eliminator
EL250 Eliminator
VN250 Eliminator
ZL400 Eliminator
ZL600 Eliminator
ZL750 Eliminator
ZL900 Eliminator
ZL1000 Eliminator

Now I understand the ZL900 is probably the model with the highest production number, but why should we always brand the “Eliminator� with the profile of the ZL900? Can we not use a silhouette that is more inclusive of all ZL’s rather than exclusive of those not of 900cc? As an example, nobody in Australia has ever seen a ZL900 on our roads (except perhaps for grey imports) because they were never imported by Kawasaki Australia. I for one would like to see something that is identifiable with all models 400cc to 1000cc. I take it as a given that the site is “ZL-OA�, and I’ll accept the 125 and 250 eliminators listed above are excluded for this reason, or is that unfortunate oversight when the site was given its "ZL..." moniker?).

Please don’t get me wrong but is this a “ZL� Eliminator site or a ZL900 site?

Stormy, I like your ideas thus far, great work. I do like the old KERA logo, any chance you could develop a similar background, not withstanding the silhouette issue above (perhaps something like this: http://www.csuchico.edu/~cheinz/syllabi/asst001/fall98/old/fireball.jpg)?

Now I’ll step back and read the responses with some trepidation…

Definetly not an oversight on the ZL name here. I chose this name because it was different than all the other Eliminator sites and it's short and sweet. Another reason for the Zl name here is to somewhat separate the bigger zl's from the baby ones that don't deserve the badge they sport on the side covers. I've said it before and i'll say it again, It's an insult. I'm sure the V-max guys would be like "WTF a 125cc V-Max"? I see where Troys HD buddies emails are coming from. So it was my intention at first to separate the zl's from the 125cc. I honestly don't care what you ride. If you're here to have fun and enjoy the Brotherhood we have formed then feel free to chip in your $.02 Hell I don't care if your ride a harley davidson just don't think about bashing our zl's (I don't think you guys would let an HD member slide here anyways,,lmao)

So as i've watched the site grow i've come to realize the ZL is better known as the Eliminator. I asked Rick for help with the graphics and there it is, top of the page "Eliminator" The Eliminator name and the ZL go hand in hand. I just wish that KHI realized what they had done when they took the badge from the baddest bike with the baddest rep and badged a bike "not so worthy" with it.

[Rick_in_WA]

I forgot to post up the other "tag-line Mark had came up with ~I think~......
But no matter what we ride (I currently DONT have a ZL of my own) but I do have a KZ1100 shafty I thing the word ELIMINATOR applies to all of the sizes. be it 125-1000cc, ZL=ELIMINATOR and ELIMINATOR is why we are all here.
and ELIMINATOR does in fact sound cooler than sayyyy..... "TEAM GREEN" 555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image1566.jpg

[Stormy]

ok, I've adapted my last two designs for use in a cloth badge type format.

What do you all reckon?

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design12_clothbadge.jpg

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design13_clothbadge.jpg

[Stormy]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image156.jpg

...can you turn the bike silhouette around and the speed blurring to reflect the way the letters are facing? from left to right, like they are leaning into the wind?...just a thought.

I'd definately buy a t-shirt with that on it, no worries at all.

Mick.

[Stormy]

...heres another cloth badge for ya's.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design15_clothbadge.jpg

[Rick_in_WA]

yea I could do that but I like the front of the bike on the left, when I read I read left to right and when I see a bike I see it front to back. but yea I can do that.
give me a bit not in the mood to do any graphics at the moment.. ~5555555~

[Stormy]

ok, I was just curious to see what it might look like and if it is any better visually. Thats the best design I've seen so far, including my own, so don't think I'm putting it down at all.

Mick.

[Blagadán]

Hell yeah, I'll take one of those, 2XL please, where do i send the cheque...?

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u194/Blagadain/Image156.jpg

[Stormy]

Hell yeah, I'll take one of those, 2XL please, where do i send the cheque...?

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u194/Blagadain/Image156.jpg

Make mine a Large/Size 18, please.

[Rick_in_WA]

A twist on the same thing but the angles were changed
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image223.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image223b.jpg

On the first one I would put the tough guys dont dance on the back.

[Stormy]

nah...

they're way too complicated, they're hard on the eyes and hard to read. you were on a winner with the first one.

But I like the colouring of the first one with the maroon insert in "Eliminator" and the flash.

I'd too would put the "Tough Guys Don't Dance" on the back or "Bad News Travels Fast", actually, I'd go for the "Bad News Travels Fast", that way Harley riders can TRY to read it ,as you fly past, HaHa!!!

Mick.

[Rocket]

Holey crap Batman, this thread is taking off!

Jarney,
Point taken, I know no one is trying to force feed any particular idea down our necks. I read my post and I must apologise, to some may sound like harsh criticism. These are all good ideas and I must say the 900 is most definitely a very unique silhouette indeed; recognisable to all of us in the know.

Speaking of those in the know, how about a tongue in cheek slogan I nearly always get from those not in the know…

Kawasaki ZL… what?

or

Kawasaki Z… what?

[Blagadán]

I think we got 2 votes so far for Rick's idea.... that'd be a cool T.

If we get a few more guys giving the thumbs up on this one, we might get one step closer to this actually happening?? Who knows a T shirt printing company then...?

Most of the guys I come across over here (of the motorcycling fraternity anyway) know exactly that mine is a ZL eliminator, and most of them want it..... "ZL for sale to the highest bidder...not" would be a cool slogan to piss them off a bit... hahaha

Most of the non bikers wouldn't know an XL from an XT.

[Rocket]

Tell me about it. I have had several young hot heads in dealerships (so called expert marketeers who think they have know a thing or two about bikes and so become Kawasaki salesmen) who don’t have a clue about the product history. It never ceases to amaze me when they ask me what I ride and when I say ZL1000 they say “ah Z1000 lovely bike� and when I correct them the next I get is “oh sorry, ZR1000, ok, yes, my mate's got one of those�. Well I’m a sh1t stirrer so I correct them again and say it a Kawasaki Eliminator, well bugger me, next I hear “so you looking to trade up to a bigger bike�. Where on earth do they find these dills?

Now wouldn’t you think that if they ask the question they’d listen intently for the (customers) answer?

So you can probably guess the ZL1000 is a bit rare here in OZ so you’ll forgive us down under if we get a little proud of our velocipede.

[Kawasaki-krazy]

Who knows a T shirt printing company then...?

Ethan?

KK

[Blagadán]

Who's gonna be the first to get the ZL-oa tattoo then..... lol

[zl900_moab]

For real, I have considered a tattoo for a long time, and the time may be getting nearer...
moab...
ps, it will be a ZL900 outline.

[zlMark]

Who knows a T shirt printing company then...?

Ethan?

KKHe should have enough capital to get them printed without any more deposits :stir: :ignore:

[zl900_moab]

O.U.C.H.....

[Blagadán]

An older girl i used to work with a few years ago had a tattoo on her forearm with, "Bay City Rollers forever"....... kinda funny....

[Rick_in_WA]

ok, since I am having fun here. I think I have a perfect patch /logo/t-shirt, I can add the zl-oa but these are near perfect IMO.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image6B_W.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image7w_c.jpg

[monkeyhanger]

CAN WE HAVE UNDERWEAR MADE UP ORDER ME 7 PAIRS IN DOUBLE XL PLEASE :ignore: LOL I WISH ANDY , RICK THEY KEEP GETTING BETTER BUT WHY THE 900 AND NOT THE THOU???? :detective:

[Rick_in_WA]

I used the 900 outline because I made a brush of it. and its wrather generic wile being VISUAL to an ELIMINATOR, had I used a gpz I would have used the gpz9 wrather than the much more fun gpz550, or even the more rare ELR.
sorry to offend any 1000 owners but when the word eliminator is used I would havbe to guess the 900 is what comes to mind.. its just a generic image I am not pushing the 900 over any modle, you come up with a zl1000 outline like blag did I will and can use it.
HERE IS MY FINAL TWO TAKES ON THIS TOPIC, personaly I would buy either of these two in a patch, t-shirt, or bumper sticker.
GOOD:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image15SINGLEFLAME.jpg

PERFECTION:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image17DUELFLAME.jpg

[zlMark]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image17DUELFLAME.jpgI like this one the most, but still to much focus on "Eliminator" maybe?

Less "Eliminator" and more "zl-oa.com" :D

[zlMark]

OOOPPPSSSS, That first one screwed up, I didn't copy and paste it right.


http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z44/JarneyK/zl9006negativea.jpgThis is cool too

[zlMark]

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/ZLoa_logo_design6_web.jpg
Mick.

I like this alot too

[Rick_in_WA]

here ya go bro, a front and a back image:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image19FRONTBACK.jpg

[Stormy]

...that last design is way cool, rick.

well done.

[Jarney]

Here's a couple more ideas maybe for t shirts - just playing around. I like the one Rick did with the sort of tribal flame stuff in the background.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z44/JarneyK/zloafireball.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z44/JarneyK/zlworld2.jpg

[Stormy]

Tell me about it. I have had several young hot heads in dealerships (so called expert marketeers who think they have know a thing or two about bikes and so become Kawasaki salesmen) who don’t have a clue about the product history. It never ceases to amaze me when they ask me what I ride and when I say ZL1000 they say “ah Z1000 lovely bike� and when I correct them the next I get is “oh sorry, ZR1000, ok, yes, my mate's got one of those�. Well I’m a sh1t stirrer so I correct them again and say it a Kawasaki Eliminator, well bugger me, next I hear “so you looking to trade up to a bigger bike�. Where on earth do they find these dills?

Now wouldn’t you think that if they ask the question they’d listen intently for the (customers) answer?

So you can probably guess the ZL1000 is a bit rare here in OZ so you’ll forgive us down under if we get a little proud of our velocipede.

I usually get "it's a ZG1000, isn't it?", rocket, I know some parts are the same, but like you and the other ZL/EL bikes, I take a little offence to it being called a ZG1000/Concours. A ZL1000 is a ZL1000, no if's or F@#$%!*G but's. ...it makes it ten times worse when those comments are from the dealership I bought the bike from!!!!

Mick.

[Stormy]

whoa up, jarney, those designs are giving me a flash back to the 60's and 70's, too dated and way too much like tie dye for me.

Bloody good effort though....

[Rick_in_WA]

I am done, tired of looking at it. minor tweek to the back design:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image20minortweek.jpg

[Stormy]

you've done bloody well, Rick, good on ya!!!

[SnakeDoctor]

You guys do what you want with the designs and I'll copy them all and let some guys over here look at them for patches and T-shirts. Don't mean to sound assuming but, this is meant to make a little money to support the website, right?

[wuputt]

WOW, you guys have been awful busy! Here I've been out riding and you all are hunched over a keyboard! I feel kinda guilty, NOT!

Here is my .02

Best T-shirt logo goes to Rick and his last design. I don't care for the tweaked design tho.

Badge design goes to stormy with his oval design.

Mark, can you start a poll with these designs numbered so we can get on with it?

I for one would like to see 10 - 20% added for web site maint.

[monkeyhanger]

JUST WINDING UP RICK I THINK THE 900 IS A MUCH BETTER LOOKING BIKE THAN THE THOU ,NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE THOU I JUST PREFER THE 900 :nonono: ANDY

[Blagadán]

Oh crumbs..... better get the popcorn and a beer for this one......900 V 1K!!

[Stormy]

ZL1K's are of course, the ultimate performance cruiser, without a doubt !!! :stir:

[monkeyhanger]

I`VE GOT BOTH SO I WOULD SAY THE 1000 PERFORMANCE BUT THE 900 FOR LOOKS :stir: :stir: :stir: ANDY(NOT SITTING ON THE FENCE)

[Rogue-trooper]

Love design 5 that is cool
Rogue

[panther]

I really like Rick's design for a t-shirt, the one he said is perfection.
If the bike was a little higher so it wasn't hidden as much it would be perfect. :cool10:

[Jarney]

Sorry Stormy, I just keep seeing posts referring to the age of some of our members so I thought I would take you all back a little - hahaha. Luckily, I'm not quite old enough to remember the 60's - hahaha. Just kidding around with you all - hahaha. Rick's final "front and back" design has my vote for the shirt. Good job. Later.

[zlMark]

I am done, tired of looking at it. minor tweek to the back design:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/Image20minortweek.jpgWhen i have time i will sit down and hand draw this font out until i like it using the original letters from the "Eliminator" decal. I will play with upper and lower case for the web addy like this:

zl-oa.com and ZL-OA.com

[Rick_in_WA]

Mark here is a few fonts and how they look 1-5 are the ones you sent. they others are some I have that are similar and prolly worthy enough .
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/ZL0A/ZLOAFONT.jpg

[zlMark]

If it is done with all lower case the only letters that need to be made is c and z. I'll work on it this weekend when i have time

[CHRIS]

JUST MY OPINION ! like all of the designs ! if it were possible, i would buy several shirts, patches, or jackets with all these designs on it !, a different one for every day of the week ! i wish i could have contributed to some designs, but i'm " COMPUTER ILLITERATE " ! for this, i'm sorry ! i just want to advertise for our group ! we are all unique in our own way, but together, we are a family that is spread out all over the globe ! i stand strong for all of my family, no matter what size ELIMINATOR we may ride.

WE ARE " ZL- OA , & PROUD !!!!!!!!!!!!"

let me know if there is any way i can contribute to make these shirts, & patches a reality. CHRIS

[Rick_in_WA]

To quote a movie "....MAN YOUR TEST ARE HARD" Steve Martin~man with two brains~
Mark this is as close as I can get to the drawing you sent me:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/ZL0A/Image1for_Mark.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/ZL0A/Image1for_Mark_black.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/ZL0A/Image1for_Mark_a.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/rickinpdx/ZL0A/Image1for_Mark_black_a.jpg

[Rocket]

Hey Rick, about your "Tough Guys Don't Dance" slogan; there's a flip side to that:

"Tough Guys Do Anything They Want, and They Choose Eliminators!"

Yeh, it’s a little long hey? Actually I here these 'tough guy' cliché’s all the time. Most often are “Tough guys don’t eat quiche". I say they actually do eat quiche because they don't give a sh1t what anyone else says, now does that sound like an eliminator rider?

[zlMark]

Here is the site name done up to match the "Eliminator" decal
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r320/zlMark/zl-oa.jpg


Yes I know the l is higher than the other letters. But it does match the decal. As you look at this notice the hooks on the z and c all line up with the -. Also the chamfer on the c and z are the same as the originals on the o and a. I have one with a capital Z and it just doesn't look right.

I thank my brother John (AKA JT, Johnny and Vinny) for helping me out here. John is a Architect for a local builder here and did this drawing in Autocad. Thanks Johnny!

[Rocket]

Just a comment on the URLs with an underline; if the reader is not familiar with the ZL designator, they may not recognise these too letters on our designs and therefore won't understand what we're on about.

I believe the idea of the logo on a T shirt or patch is to advertise the model so as to encourage the ignorant to investigate the bikes on-line. If they misinterpret the URL they'll be lost.

What say you all?

[panther]

Just my 0.02 worth, I think there is too much emphasis being put on the dot com and not enough on the bike. I'd be happy wearing a shirt showing the bike i ride but i'm not into free advertising regardless of how good the product is. I'd still wear it if the url was a minor inclusion though.

[zlMark]

Just my 0.02 worth, I think there is too much emphasis being put on the dot com and not enough on the bike. I'd be happy wearing a shirt showing the bike i ride but i'm not into free advertising regardless of how good the product is. I'd still wear it if the url was a minor inclusion though.Well here is my $.02 The T-shirts I will be printing will be to promote "our" Owners Association. The promotion of the bike I like to ride is cool, too bad they aren't in production anymore. But if we can spread the word about our little community here then all our members will benefit from parts, techniques, and advice.

:groupcheers:

[Kawasaki-krazy]

Just my 0.02 worth, I think there is too much emphasis being put on the dot com and not enough on the bike. I'd be happy wearing a shirt showing the bike i ride but i'm not into free advertising regardless of how good the product is. I'd still wear it if the url was a minor inclusion though.

These bikes are rare. For the first 10 years I didn't see another bike like mine on the road at all. The first time I saw another, it was parked up at a rally, and despite waiting until I absolutely HAD to leave I never got to speak to the owner. If he had a shirt back then, I might have been able to identify him in the crowd and he likewise if I had one. I for one believe it is a brilliant idea to promote our bikes AND the forum where so much cameraderie is exhibited, not to mention the techy advice that we ALL benefit from.


but i'm not into free advertising regardless of how good the product is. I'd still wear it if the url was a minor inclusion though.

Would you rather pay a membership fee then?? The site doesn't run itself. Mark has to pay out hard earned cash to keep this resource running for OUR benefit. (I know...I have just been checking into starting a site for the UK, and believe me...it ain't cheap) Keep up the good work Mark

KK

[wuputt]

I agree with KK, Mark does a great job at his own expence, both time and cash! I will buy any item that is made with reference to the good ol' ZL or the great new ZL-OA! Anything that I can do to help Mark, all ya gotta do is say the word!

[Stormy]

... well, I'm getting this design made into a cloth patch, with the new zl-oa.com lettering and the original elminator script as it appears on the bike.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/017.ZLoa_logo_design17_clothbadge_rectangle.jpg

I'm hoping it will turn out about 100mm / 10cm / 4 inches across, with single red border, rather than the double, wide and narrow border. I'm getting preliminary embroidery concepts from the manufacturer within the next couple of days and I'm hoping they will be cost about $10.00 AUD each.

I'll post up the "mockup" image of the badge (with all the simulated stitching" in the next couple of days when I get it.

Mick.

[acp]

That patch looks good Mick, how much would it be to post it to the UK?

[Stormy]

I don't know, acp, but it shouldn't be more than $2.50 AUD. I'll do the conversion later, once we get serious.

Mick.

[Stormy]

...if anyone wants a patch, once they're completed and approved, leave your full name and postal address here and I'll workout the postage to your destination and get back to you, then we can workout how to pay for them, etc.

Mick.

[zlMark]

Nice! I was hoping you would try it

[wuputt]

Nice job Stormy!!

[Blagadán]

Not sure its such a good idea for the guys to post their full names and addresses on here mick, there are some ****ed up people out there. A PM to you with their details might be a good alternative though... nice one with the patch... good job

[Stormy]

yeah ok, blag, I didn't think of that, my mistake.

Ok guys, just pm or email me with your details if you want me to order you one.

Mick.

[Stormy]

Ok, guys and gals,

Here it is, the zl-oa patch.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zloapatch.jpg

This is an ACTUAL embroidered patch, that has been made, scanned and sent to me from the manufacturer for final approval, before she goes into full production.

The dash in the zl-oa.com will be moved down slightly so it's in the middle of the lettering, so don't worry, but she couldn't get the line linking the "Eliminator" lettering together, she apologies, and shes having another go to see if she can get it, but if not, is it still ok with you guys to go ahead without it?

Mick.

[Stormy]

oh, btw, the size of the patch is 3.5" x 3.9' or 88mm x 99mm.

She hasn't given me a price yet, but as soon as I know I'll let you all know as soon as possible.

Mick.

[CHRIS]

i like it ! keep me posted on how much $$$ the patch will be. CHRIS

[Stormy]

I'm hoping the patch will be about $10 AUD, chris, but don't hold me to that, but it depends on how much time she has to spend on it to get the "Eliminator" and the "zl-oa.com" lettering to join up.

When it is finally finished, and everything is acceptable and approved, put your orders in and we'll have to organise some way getting the funds across to me so I can send the patches to you all.

For those that don't have a paypal acount, I'm thinking a straight swap. I collect cloth patches & pin badges, so I'll buy the patch from the manufacturer and swap it with you for a tourist patch or badge from your specific local area, how's that? That way no actual money changes hands.

Mick.

[CHRIS]

cool thanks mick ! keep me posted, & figure something out ! CHRIS

[Stormy]

I'm on msn now, lets chat!!!

[CHRIS]

HEY MICK,

it was nice chatting with you ! :) i will start saving money, so hopfully someday in the near future i can come over to visit, & taste test all the aussie beers !! :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: with you! CHRIS :cool10:

[Stormy]

yeah, nice chating with you also.

If you do come over to Oz, and we meet up, make sure you stock up on hangover cures before you leave !!!

Mick.

[Stormy]

...ok guys and gals,

The manufacturer has had another go at the lettering on the patch and I reckon she's done a good job getting the lettering as close to the design I originally submitted to her, the top image is the patch she just sent to me and the image below that, is the design I sent to her to make, I reckon it's pretty close, myself, but decide for yourselves.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zloapatch02.jpg

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/017.ZLoa_logo_design17_clothbadge_rectangle.jpg

The size of the patch is still 3.5" x 3.9' or 88mm x 99mm, and the price is now $14.00 AUD, plus additional postage to wherever you are (I'll work out the postage later).

Chris and I were chatting about the payment arrangements and I thought that if I send however many patches are need directly to either chris or zlmark, you US fella's can buy them directly from them, that way you save on postage from Aust. as it will be combined, rather than sending them singley, plus you'll get them heaps quicker than if they came from Aust.

So, who wants a patch?

Mick.

[zlMark]

Looks great Mick. Thanks for all your efforts. I'd like to have a patch. If you want to see who else is interested here, and ship them all to me at once, that would work just fine for me

[Stormy]

no worries, zlmark, but would you like to chat about the finer details (payment methods, etc) privately?

The order, so far stands at;

1 for acp
2 for chris
1 for zlmark

any other takers?

[zl900_moab]

2 for moab.
moab...

[vinny]

2 for Vinny please.

[Jarney]

2 for Jarney please. And thanks to you Stormy for your efforts - looks good.

[Stormy]

Pre-order confirmation = x 10 patches @ $14.00 AUD (International monetary exchange rate, as of 27 August 2007 = $11.62 USD, €8.49 EUR, £5.75 GBP)

U.K and other World-Wide Members

1 for acp = 1 x patch @ £5.75GBP or €8.49 EUR.

U.S Members

1 for zlmark = 1 x patch @ $11.62 USD = TTL $11.62 USD.
2 for chris = 2 x patches = $11.62 USD = TTL $23.24 USD.
2 for moab = 2 x patches = $11.62 USD = TTL $23.24 USD.
2 for Vinny = 2 x patches = $11.62 USD = TTL $23.24 USD.
2 for Jarney = 2 x patches = $11.62 USD = TTL $23.24 USD.

U.S members should forward all relevant funds directly to zlmark, so the funds can be transfered directly to me. the patches will be posted directly to zlmark for re-distribution to the relevant U.S members.

U.K and other world-wide members should post a cheque or international money order for the relevant funds, directly to me (pm or email for postal details).

I don't have a paypal account and for some reason, I can't get one (something wrong with the PayPal Registration system, it won't recognise my details), so we'll have to do it this way, sorry.

Mick.

[Stormy]

...another alternative to me being the middle man in all this, is to deal with the manufacturer directly.

I have put it to her and she is willing to accept orders from overseas and it can be done via her paypal account.

Here is an excerpt from the email she sent to me in regards to this matter.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
...I only accept Paypal from overseas (because they can’t do Direct Bank Deposits online, and I don’t take Credit Cards) and they need to add $4 AUD for postage for each patch. If one order is for more than one patch it will be $6 postage for 2, and $9 for up to one dozen.

My Paypal email is ria@mcs.net.au .

They can order directly from me also through my usual email at riarocks@bigpond.com.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I would like to add, if you purchase the patches directly, via the manufacturer, Ria Linnehan of "HARLEY RIAs BIKER PATCHES GIFTS and SPARES SHOP" at http://tinyurl.com/ys4twz, the price will be $11.00 Australian dollars each.

The additional $3.00 cost per patch I quoted earlier (my cost was $14.00), was to cover my previous expenses, etc.

Might I suggest that if you do end up purchasing the patches directly from her, that you send her an email with "Re: zl-oa.com patches" in the subject line, and in the body of the email telling her how many zl-oa.com patches you want, along with your full name, postal address, country, etc and any paypal transfer details you may have, to act as an electronic funds transfer receipt. If you do that, then everything should go pretty smoothly.

Remember to transfer the funds in Australian dollars, not U.S dollars or U.K Pounds or she may have to send you some change back, as the aussie dollar is slightly less than the U.S dollar and roughly about half for the U.K Pound at the moment.

Cheer's, Mick.

[Stormy]

ok, guys and gals,

We have some good news for you all.

In collabaration with snakedoctor, we've come up with some additional choices in the patches and we have had the first of the zl-oa.com patches made by snakedoctors friend in thailand. Below is the thai version, which in my opinion is heaps clearer and I think probably better quality.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/zloapatch_thai.jpg

The other news is we may be able to give you a choice of bikes in the patch, the ZL900 or the ZL1000.

Here's the ZL1000 version.
http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/018.ZLoa_logo_design18_clothbadge_rectangle.jpg

Here's the ZL900 version.
http://www.hotkey.net.au/~mattakana/017.ZLoa_logo_design17_clothbadge_rectangle.jpg

Mick.

[SnakeDoctor]

Thanks for posting the pic of the patch Stormy and I'll be picking up samples on Monday of both the 900 and 1000. I am going to cover the costs of these being made.

My friend has to make 2 different blocks to make these different patches and I have to order a minimum of 25 of each to make it happen. I'm getting the bike done in a shiny thread so that it will show brighter. I'll keep everyone up to date on everything.

The cost will be less and I will work with anyone that wants to make multiple orders. So that there are NO problems, I will try to get the patches to you FIRST and then you pay. I don't have a lot of money and can't give these away but I am trying to make this as easy and affordable for everyone as I possibly can and that no one is left standing without the patch.

I haven't yet got a PayPal account setup in Thailand but I am working on that also. More to come after Monday the 3rd of Sept.

Please let me have some idea as to whether you like the look of the patch so far or if you have any suggestions or if there is anything that you do not like about the patch as it appears now.

Thank you,

SD.

[acp]

I like that new patch Mick, how much will it cost?

[Stormy]

acp, see: the new thread http://www.zl-oa.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=8928#8928 for updates and pricing.

Mick.

[acp]

I saw the new thread Mick, just though I'd be annoying, hehe.

[wuputt]

acp, good job! :stir:

[Stormy]

Due to unforeseen circumstances my previous manufacturer, as previously recommended, will not be making or supplying our zl-oa patches.

...and don't ask why.

Mick.

[zl900_moab]

Why????
hehe
moab...

[AAMI]

Hello All! Of course you can still buy your ZL patches from me if you wish to. You are all free to make your own decision as to which supplier you prefer, and since I have already put the hard work into digitising these patches, with the red border as requested, I would like to state that I will make them for you if you want me to. I have charged no set up fee and do not insist on a minimum number per order. As a gesture of good will I will lower my price to $9 AUD including postage to anywhere.
You can email me at riarocks@bigpond.com and order directly from me. I accept Paypal. For any further details just email me. I promise fast service and a top quality product.
You can check my references here:
[url]http://www.oztion.com.au/user/user_detail.aspx?user=harleyria

Regards, Ria

[Stormy]

:ignore: :spam1:

[zl900_moab]

****....Spammers.....Lemme get my gun.
moab...

[wuputt]

I have plenty of ammo for ya moab! Let the bullits fly!!! :stir:

I think that there should be, oh lets just say 15% of all proceeds from sales go to the administrator for site maintenance!

[wuputt]

I find some links.

http://www.deathclock.com/

[SnakeDoctor]

I think that there should be, oh lets just say 15% of all proceeds from sales go to the administrator for site maintenance!


I have factored something like this in the price already and just have to figure out how to get it done. I am still working on getting my PayPal account and will go from there. I'm not forgetting the site. :nonono: :D

[zl900_moab]

We knew you wouldn't, SD....
moab...

[Kawasaki-krazy]

I find some links.

http://www.deathclock.com/

How cheerfull :clock:
KK

[wuputt]

SD, you are doing the members here a huge favor by getting these made, paying for them, dealing with the supplier (we all know what a pain they can be) and shipping them to us!!!

YOU don't owe this site anything!

YOU have given freely of parts and knowledge .

YOU deserve a big THANK YOU!!

Let me be the first!
THANK YOU

[zlMark]

Your Personal Day of Death is...
Thursday, April 1, 2038
Seconds left to live...

965,016,853


What a day this will be..............April Fools!

[Kawasaki-krazy]

Your Personal Day of Death is...
Monday, December 13, 2049
Seconds left to live...

1,334,290,132

:victory: :headbang:

KK

[Stormy]

The Day I Will Die is...
Wednesday, August 1, 2060

Cool, I'll be 96 years old !!!

[acp]

Mine is:

Monday, June 10, 2058
Seconds left to live...

1,601,925,863

Not bad, in my early 70s....Now will it be while riding or while scuba diving? :)

[wuputt]

TEE HEE HEE

Thursday, February 8, 1990
Seconds left to live...

0

[acp]

Living on borrowed time there Wuputt.....

[Blagadán]

Your Personal Day of Death is...
Sunday, January 26, 2042
Seconds left to live...
1,085,309,504


72!!!


thats at my real BMI of 32...

and when i change the BMI to<25 it only gives me another 2 years.... wheres that big mac n fries then....!!! lol, no more diets for me...yippee...!!!

Nice find there KK....



....



....



WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!

AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

[Kawasaki-krazy]

Nice find there KK....




I find some links.

http://www.deathclock.com/

How cheerfull :clock:
KK

Not guilty

KK

[CHRIS]

IF WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE, I'M RIDING MY ELIMINATOR TO THE GATES !!! CHRIS

[Blagadán]

Oops....

ahem....

Nice find there wuputt!!!

lol

WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!

AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

[Kawasaki-krazy]

:rotf:

[Blagadán]

Just checked my wifes personal date of death... she's gonna last 6 years more than me... WELL THATS JUST TYPICAL!

Gonna spend my whole freakin life payin a mortgage and life insurance, and when I die (first) she gets the house, all my stuff AND Gets a big insurance pay out...

Great, This "deathdate" link gets better and better.... thanks a bunch wuputt...






lol

[wuputt]

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Just get her to start smoking!