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Front Wheel Needed for '96 600
Anyone know where i can get a good used one for a reasonable price?
Anyone know where i can get a good used one for a reasonable price?
Kawasaki-krazy
Senior Member
So.....to get your test in the UK
First you have to complete the Compulsory Basic Training
Then do the Hazard perception test (or theory test as its called)
Then you have to complete the actual observed road riding test
and NOW from 2008 the kids are expected to do this as well
http://www.dsa.gov.uk/Category.asp?cat=405
NO MENTION OF RESTRICTING THE YOUNG NEDS IN SOUPED UP HATCHBACKS WHO ARE DOING EQUAL AMOUNTS (IF NOT MORE) DAMAGE TO THEMSELVES THAN MOTORCYCLISTS.
And breathe...................
Not to mention that this is likely to put the cost of getting a licence beyond your average spotty teenager. There's no wonder that motorcyclists are becoming a dying breed......its got very little to do with us all killing ourselves.....its now more to do with the cost of FOUR seperate tests and all the protective gear that is putting the youngsters off.
Long gone are the days when I started on my moped as a cheap form of transport with just a pair of jeans and a combat type jacket (no helmet in those days either).
What does the test consist of in the US?
Do you get the TV series 'Grumpy old men' in the US. God I could do the complete series all on my own.
Christ I must be getting old.
Rant Off
KK
First you have to complete the Compulsory Basic Training
Then do the Hazard perception test (or theory test as its called)
Then you have to complete the actual observed road riding test
and NOW from 2008 the kids are expected to do this as well
http://www.dsa.gov.uk/Category.asp?cat=405
NO MENTION OF RESTRICTING THE YOUNG NEDS IN SOUPED UP HATCHBACKS WHO ARE DOING EQUAL AMOUNTS (IF NOT MORE) DAMAGE TO THEMSELVES THAN MOTORCYCLISTS.
And breathe...................
Not to mention that this is likely to put the cost of getting a licence beyond your average spotty teenager. There's no wonder that motorcyclists are becoming a dying breed......its got very little to do with us all killing ourselves.....its now more to do with the cost of FOUR seperate tests and all the protective gear that is putting the youngsters off.
Long gone are the days when I started on my moped as a cheap form of transport with just a pair of jeans and a combat type jacket (no helmet in those days either).
What does the test consist of in the US?
Do you get the TV series 'Grumpy old men' in the US. God I could do the complete series all on my own.
Christ I must be getting old.
Rant Off
KK
Southernstyle
Senior Member
Don't get the series, but there were two movies made here by the same title.
The motorcycle test varies from state to state, and in South Carolina at least, from county to county within the state, and from department to department within the county. Mainly it consists of a total bullshit written test. I swear one of the questions is "which is the proper application method for the brakes? a)front only, b) rear only, or c) a combination of the two. The correct answer according to them is rear only. The front brake is only for emergencies. The riding test is in the back parking lot. Get on, prove all the lights and horn work, fire it up and go run through those five cones as fast as you like, come back to me and make a compete stop. When you stop, don't take your feet off the pegs. As soon as you stop, take off and do it again then return here to me and shut off the engine. That's it!
I for one wouldn't mind seeing a bit more stringent testing. If you don't know how to ride, I don't want to be on the road with you. The other crazy thing here is that the learner's permit is good for a year, and is renewable indefinetly. You don't have to be accompanied by another rider when you only have a permit either, just head out on you own and find out the hard way!
Later,
SS
The motorcycle test varies from state to state, and in South Carolina at least, from county to county within the state, and from department to department within the county. Mainly it consists of a total bullshit written test. I swear one of the questions is "which is the proper application method for the brakes? a)front only, b) rear only, or c) a combination of the two. The correct answer according to them is rear only. The front brake is only for emergencies. The riding test is in the back parking lot. Get on, prove all the lights and horn work, fire it up and go run through those five cones as fast as you like, come back to me and make a compete stop. When you stop, don't take your feet off the pegs. As soon as you stop, take off and do it again then return here to me and shut off the engine. That's it!
I for one wouldn't mind seeing a bit more stringent testing. If you don't know how to ride, I don't want to be on the road with you. The other crazy thing here is that the learner's permit is good for a year, and is renewable indefinetly. You don't have to be accompanied by another rider when you only have a permit either, just head out on you own and find out the hard way!
Later,
SS
zlMark
Cult Leader
In Ohio we have the for 18 yrs and above the written test for the temp permit and then the manueverability test to get your endorsement. For beginners under the age of 18 and others willing to pay to learn we have a basic riders course. which costs $25 to those older than 18 and free to those under 18. The course provides cycles, helmets and instruction.
SnakeDoctor
Senior Member
I still remember getting out of the Army and had no license, went on a trip from Pa. to Florida riding a 74 model BMW R90s. Got stopped in Georgia (no ticket) and told to go to the station and get a license.
Guy there asks what I wanted and I told him that the police told me to get a license. He then said, "How did you get here?" I said I rode my bike. He then said "You rode by yourself?" I said yes and he said "no problem, sign here and we'll take your picture" Nothing else, I'll never forget it. 555555555
Guy there asks what I wanted and I told him that the police told me to get a license. He then said, "How did you get here?" I said I rode my bike. He then said "You rode by yourself?" I said yes and he said "no problem, sign here and we'll take your picture" Nothing else, I'll never forget it. 555555555
zlMark
Cult Leader
I have owned cycles since 89. but have only had my endorsement 2 years,,,lol
monkeyhanger
Senior Member
i`ve been riding over 25 yers but only passed my test 3 yers ago.very expensive and time consuming(failed first time around aswell).i think it should not be made anyeasier with the new bikes on the market you must be a capable rider before throwing a leg over some thing with 150 hp plus.(oh no now i`m feel old) 
:bom:Kawasaki-krazy
Senior Member
Don't get me wrong. I agree with the safety aspects of the test etc. and it certainly is a lot better than when I started.
When I got my first bike from the dealer at 16 years old I picked it up on Friday night after work, got there just before 5.00 pm as they were about to close. The salesman took me out to a back lane and showed me the controls (once) and then said "OK then, see you later" and that was IT!!!
I then had to negotiate my way through the city centre to get home!
Lucky to survive really
Its the cost though. This is from a randomly googled site
Then there's the cost of a helmet (minimum required) then the rest of the protective gear....
£40.00 Gloves
£50.00 Boots
£150.00 leather jacket
£100.00 leather jeans
£50.00 waterproofs (you definately need them here, This is the UK after all)
Thats £979.00 Before you've even turned a wheel.
979.00 GBP = 1,910.59 USD
http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi
Then there's the cost of the bike, No wonder people are turning straight to cars.
My argument is that the government are adding yet another test to becoming a motorcyclist (with an extra cost no doubt), who generally, show a reduction in accidents, but they are not doing anything about a 17 year old who can pass his test and jump straight into a Ferrari. Far more dangerous in my opinion.
They just want rid of bikers :nonono:
Its OK guys. I'm calm now
KK
When I got my first bike from the dealer at 16 years old I picked it up on Friday night after work, got there just before 5.00 pm as they were about to close. The salesman took me out to a back lane and showed me the controls (once) and then said "OK then, see you later" and that was IT!!!
I then had to negotiate my way through the city centre to get home!
Lucky to survive really
Its the cost though. This is from a randomly googled site
Then there's the cost of a helmet (minimum required) then the rest of the protective gear....
£40.00 Gloves
£50.00 Boots
£150.00 leather jacket
£100.00 leather jeans
£50.00 waterproofs (you definately need them here, This is the UK after all)
Thats £979.00 Before you've even turned a wheel.
979.00 GBP = 1,910.59 USD
http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi
Then there's the cost of the bike, No wonder people are turning straight to cars.
My argument is that the government are adding yet another test to becoming a motorcyclist (with an extra cost no doubt), who generally, show a reduction in accidents, but they are not doing anything about a 17 year old who can pass his test and jump straight into a Ferrari. Far more dangerous in my opinion.
They just want rid of bikers :nonono:
Its OK guys. I'm calm now
KK
rammy1500
Supporting Member X2
Its not that bad in the states yet but if they really want to reduce our dependance on foreign oil then let scooters on the road, no licenses, reduced insurance and penalties for running them over. I have a co-worker that rides a 250 scooter that gets 80 mpg but had to licenses and insure it just like a motorcycle or car. I would get one to commute around the suburb at least to run to the beer store, but not worth it with the license and insurance requirements. Maybe when gas goes to $3 or $3.50 more folks will put pressure on the government to encourage alternative transportation.
acp
Senior Member
I know how you feel KK. I'm glad I chose to go for a bike first.
Passed my CBT when I was 16, went and got a Gilera DNA 50cc moped. When I turned 17 I did my theory test, this was 2 months before they bought in the hazard perception test, so I haven't experienced that yet. Then took my practical test, passed on the 3rd attempt, thanks to having the same a$$hole examiner for the first 2 tests.
Once I passed my test I was restricted to 33bhp for 2 years, which I think is a good thing and they should look at doing something similar in cars by limitting new drivers under 21 to 1.1litres for the first 2 years.
Costs:
CBT - £85
Theory - £45 I think
Practical - £85
Helmet - £60
Gloves - £40
Textile Jacket - £100
Waterproof over-trousers - £50
So that's £635 ($1,234.96) or so before I even got a 125.
Admittedly I did go straight from a Yamaha XV125 Virago to a 2002 Kawasaki Ninja 636 :dancingfool: , but I was killed on insurance, £1400-$2,722.61 for the first year's comprehensive insurance.
Apparently they are soon going to start including "green" questions in the tests, so you'll have to answer questions on how your exhaust fumes affect the environment, and if you get them wrong you'll fail your test.
I'm 21 and only just thinking about doing my driving test now. Only so that when/if I emigrate to Australia then I only have to do the theory test, not the whole thing.
Rant over...for now
Passed my CBT when I was 16, went and got a Gilera DNA 50cc moped. When I turned 17 I did my theory test, this was 2 months before they bought in the hazard perception test, so I haven't experienced that yet. Then took my practical test, passed on the 3rd attempt, thanks to having the same a$$hole examiner for the first 2 tests.
Once I passed my test I was restricted to 33bhp for 2 years, which I think is a good thing and they should look at doing something similar in cars by limitting new drivers under 21 to 1.1litres for the first 2 years.
Costs:
CBT - £85
Theory - £45 I think
Practical - £85
Helmet - £60
Gloves - £40
Textile Jacket - £100
Waterproof over-trousers - £50
So that's £635 ($1,234.96) or so before I even got a 125.
Admittedly I did go straight from a Yamaha XV125 Virago to a 2002 Kawasaki Ninja 636 :dancingfool: , but I was killed on insurance, £1400-$2,722.61 for the first year's comprehensive insurance.
Apparently they are soon going to start including "green" questions in the tests, so you'll have to answer questions on how your exhaust fumes affect the environment, and if you get them wrong you'll fail your test.
I'm 21 and only just thinking about doing my driving test now. Only so that when/if I emigrate to Australia then I only have to do the theory test, not the whole thing.
Rant over...for now
Kawasaki-krazy
Senior Member
acp said:
Yep....they should be limited to a maximum of something like this
http://www.whatcar.co.uk/car-review-full.aspx?RT=608
With a top speed of around 75 - 80 mph
KK
acp
Senior Member
Agreed.
That was always one thing that pissed me off, I was restricted to 33bhp just because I had chosen to do my bike licence instead of a car licence. Yet if I had chosen to go for a car I could get anything I wanted, the only thing that would stop me is the insurance. And considering how many people in this country drive around uninsured then that's not stopping them now either.
One of the other things that pissed me off was my exhaust. I had an Akrapovic oval race can on my Ninja. Which wasn't road legal because of the noise, yet a lot of times I would have some chav idiot in a Nova sat at the lights next to me with an exhaust the size of a dustbin hanging off the back of his car, drowning out the noise of my exhaust, and his was legal.
But of course, there is no discrimination against bikers in this country. I can't wait to leave.
Damnit KK, you know how to rile me up.
Rant over.....until the next comment
That was always one thing that pissed me off, I was restricted to 33bhp just because I had chosen to do my bike licence instead of a car licence. Yet if I had chosen to go for a car I could get anything I wanted, the only thing that would stop me is the insurance. And considering how many people in this country drive around uninsured then that's not stopping them now either.
One of the other things that pissed me off was my exhaust. I had an Akrapovic oval race can on my Ninja. Which wasn't road legal because of the noise, yet a lot of times I would have some chav idiot in a Nova sat at the lights next to me with an exhaust the size of a dustbin hanging off the back of his car, drowning out the noise of my exhaust, and his was legal.
But of course, there is no discrimination against bikers in this country. I can't wait to leave.
Damnit KK, you know how to rile me up.
Rant over.....until the next comment
Ferret
Supporting Member
acp said:
Keeps us informed re coming to Australia ... (when, where .. etc etc)
Cheers,
Ross
Kawasaki-krazy
Senior Member
Rossco1 said:acp said:
Keeps us informed re coming to Australia ... (when, where .. etc etc)
Cheers,
Ross
Is that so you can move out...........Just kidding
KK
acp
Senior Member
Rossco1 said:acp said:
Keeps us informed re coming to Australia ... (when, where .. etc etc)
Cheers,
Ross
It's not going to be for at least 3 or 4 years yet, need to save up. But looking at moving to the Perth area. My girlfriend has an Aunt there who may be able to sponsor us.
How does your Eli cope out there fuel range wise? Debating whether to take mine with me, depends on how much work I've done to it by then.
Southernstyle
Senior Member
I know the feeling guys. It's not as bad here, you can ride whatever you want. I feel we have the opposite problem. There are way too many rich kids wrecking daddy's z4 or muscle car at 17 years old. Why the hell they are allowed to drive something with that much power is beyond me. My first car was an '87 chevy s-10 with the 2.5L four cylinder and four speed manual, and I still got into plenty of trouble with that little truck.
As far as the emissions part goes, don't even get me started. I think my summer project, after the Eli is up and going of course, is to repower my Ford exploder with a diesel (biodiesel anyone) and tell the gov. to kiss my freakin ASS!!! Just call me frydaddy. Hehe.
Later,
SS
As far as the emissions part goes, don't even get me started. I think my summer project, after the Eli is up and going of course, is to repower my Ford exploder with a diesel (biodiesel anyone) and tell the gov. to kiss my freakin ASS!!! Just call me frydaddy. Hehe.
Later,
SS
if at all possible...... take a keith code school.... I have done that one 4 times over the years. and its the best thing you can treat yourself to... great article in cycleworld this month also...... I wont get into a rant about DMV issues because as long as any asshat with good gredit can get on something like a '14 or busa..... idiots will get killed, and make us all look bad.
acp
Senior Member
Once my shoulder is a bit stronger I'm going to do a few of Keith Code's California Superbike School sessions. I can't do it now because my shoulder wouldn't be able to handle it yet.
Kawasaki-krazy
Senior Member
Rick_in_WA said:
Do the courses not work then? :stir:
KK
Kawasaki-krazy said:Rick_in_WA said:
Do the courses not work then? :stir:
KK
YES...... in a weekend you will learn more about riding than years of riding can teach you. the one thing I got the most of it was learning "lines" and brakes
Its been a number of years since I have been to one. am due for a refresher now I am sure.