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I finally got a chance to install my clutch today, one small problem the stock clutch plates are to big????????????I tried two kits and they will not fit in the basket???does anyone know the diameter of the clutch plates mine seems very small the plates will not fit in. :? :x
 
the EBC part #ck4409 is the one they keep giving me
 
Hey NE 400, The Number you posted is for a Z1A/B 900, Part # for the 900 Eliminator is CK 4434, Later Rocky
 
Well my Eli is making me totaly crazy, the number one carb was flooding.... so since I still need to fit an airbox/filters I thought wtf may as well adress that issue......issue adressed, box fitted..... even managed to get the boots on the carbs!.... after about a 2 hr struggle!..... fire it up!. now runs on 3 cyls, and floods on the #3 carb!. fuel just pouring out of it!. headlight, tail and break lights dont work now..... and my valves are in desparate need of adjustment....... needless to say this is wearing thin with me.... as bad as I want this bike to run, it doing everything it can to make me part it out........
I just walked away from it. took off my seat and will let it sit out-side in the fuking rain....... leaky POS, cant be in the garage stinking up the house with gas fumes.
 
yea I know,, very frustrating. Inline Filter is a must! If you dont have new needles installed then i'd say get them and install. If you do then try draining fuel bowls to get the dirt free. If you end up pulling the carbs use new lines and filter. Also flush the crap out of the fuel delivery forth and back to make sure it's clear/clean
 
That stinks rick. I know the effort involved in getting the box back in too well buddie, bad luck. Have you taken the carbs apart to clean them? I thot you did. If there is some crap after getting in to the float valve you may be as well to pull the carbs and give em a good going over. I found a load of 'gel' in nooks and crannies of mine when i stripped em. My no's #2 & #3 carb had crap in the float valve seat and were pissing fuel out before i cleaned them. A new in-line filter is a great idea too. Just a tip if you do decide to strip the carbs.... I got my camera and took loads of photos as i stripped the carbs. Made the rebuild a breeze, everything went back exactly as it was before.

good luck,

Blag
 
Rick, don't give up yet on the bike, from what I understand, it had pods on it before and you elected to go with the original airbox. If this is the case then maybe the carb jets are too big for the airbox and might be causing you a problem. You gave a nice burn without the box being on so you might think about this first.

Take the carbs back off and clean again and like others have said, run a inline fuel filter and maybe even take the tank back off and clean it again, just to make sure there is no trash getting in from there.

Get the valves adjusted and you can still have my new valve cover gasket until you can get another. My bike is dead in the water due to the lack of funds anyway so you might as well use mine.

Best of luck to you Bro but don't kick the bike to the curb yet.
 
I tried the inline fuel filter but I couldn't get it to fit right and it was keeping gas from getting to the carb. Any recommendation on fuel line and filter? Like how much fuel line from the tank before the filter and from the filter to the carb. No need for me to experiment and have the bike starving for fuel like last summer.
 
Rick know your frustration on the carbs. Went two years messing with mine trying all kinds of adjustments and even having a dealership work on it (that was a mistake). My solution was that I found a set off of a '04 Concours on ebay for $250 that bolted right up, except for taking them apart to replace the throttle cable bracket. I figured to replace the worn diaphrams, needles, float and everything was going to run about $600 to $800. The ebay seller said they ran fine, except he wanted a bigger set for his Connie. Fired right up after I put them on and I didn't make any adjustments to it at all.
 
Rick,

I know how you feel with the carbs, my number 1 & 3 carbs were flooding and leaking as well. Finally got around to giving them a service while I was putting the new headlight and dials on. They haven't had a single drip since then, and I found they were running lean before, so now they're back to how they shoudl be. Carb service together with the new cam chain and tensioner means my bike is now running smooth as anything.

acp
 
I feel your pain on that one! If You have a Harbor Freight or Northern around there, I highly reccomend picking up an ultrasonic cleaner. It gets all the **** in the teeny tiny passages broken loose. If you haven't done so yet, pull 'em back off and clean 'em out. After cleaning the traditional way, (soaking and blowing out the passages) put the housings in the Usonic with distilled water and let 'em shake for a couple hours. Then blow the rest of the crud out and rebuild em.
Best I recall you had Trapps when you got it, so you may want to double check the jets, especially if your going back stock. Good Luck. Ride the bike, don't let the bike ride you!
Later,
SS
 
according to the manual my jets are stock sized. just doing alot of math on this one. may be more viable to part it. and get a runner.... than end up with a bike I would not trust for any distance.
 
The old adage when doing ANY carb work or for that matter ANYTHING to fuel system no matter what the scoot make model or year is CLEAN CLEAN rhen CLEAN again two more times - can and IS frustrating but patience grasshopper it's a cleaning issue thru annd thru ALWAYS is... but we've had this conversation before....PATIENCE zen like is required. and lots of cleaning.
 
Rick_in_WA said:
and get a runner.... .
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I bought a runner, and guess what, within a few months had carb problems and ignition problems.

Dont forget this is a 22 yr old bike. You're going to get your hands dirty
 
I think the same thing, get a runner and tinker with the 900. My brother bought a brand new Yamaha FZ something two years ago and after having it two weeks it wouldn't start after being at bike night. It was dumping more fuel on the ground then into the engine. Hauled it back to the dealership and they couldn't find anything wrong, but went ahead and did the $300 600 mile checkup for him as a favor. He never had the problem again, but still concerns you on a long trip if its going to act up again.
 
I am jst totaly frustrated with it. and if this becomes a machine that I cannot trust to get me from Jims house to mine. then its not going to ever be a viable ride for me.
 
Take a breather and walk away for a day or so. Don't give up on it just yet. As I'm sure you know, the tiniest piece of dirt can stick the float needles open on a bike, especially one of these bikes.
The float needles themselves may be dried out and have harline cracks as well. How'd you like to be made of rubber and soak in gas for twenty some odd years?
True it's frustrating, and we'd all love the parts, but You've come too far and waited too long for this to let it get you down now!
I went through almost the same thing. Went to get the tire changed, bike would hardly start. Found the valve adjustment problem, fixed that and decided on one last ride before pulling the head. Left it running to warm up and went in the house to get my helmet. Came back out to find gas pouring everywhere! So straight into the shop it went.
But damn it's gonna be fun waxing those nissans and toyotas again this summer!!!
Ah c'mon Moe!!! You know ya wanna!
Alright, pep talk's over. Hang in there buddy, you're almost there.
Later,
SS
 
Rick, the pods are on the way today and I did save some money to get them there but check the buggers when they arrive. One inch higher and a little longer makes ALL the diff in price. Saved almost $10 in shipping. I do know that they will fit on em the carbs as you have seen it.

I'm still looking for someone that has an old K&N that I can copy.

I hope it works for you.


SD
 
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