Bacchus' road test review

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gettin' a good long ride in gives a guy a chance to check things out thoroughly... this thread is for items that have been tested on those good long road trips..

first off we have the "throttle Boss"

the throttle boss is a simple device that clips on to the throttle side hand grip. this allows the rider to control the throttle with the palm of your hand rather than with your fingers. I put at least 500 miles on this road test with the throttle boss and man was I glad I had one !! with the throttle boss mounted up I was able to extend my fingers while riding and this kept my hand nice and comfortable... just open your hand up and lay your fingers on the lever, push your palm down a bit and you got steady cruise.. very very nice to have on those long rides.

in town, where you have alot of throttle manipulation necessary not really a plus, not really a minus either but no real benifit from use. As I do not consider this to be a Bling Bling item I will pull it off in town and throw it in my fork bag. But for anyone considering the long haul I would give this item the two thumbs up and in fact I now consider this to be a "must have" for any serious rider who takes trips of 100 miles or more. simple, effective, and makes the ride just that much more enjoyable. I will be definately be looking to stock these in my store soon.


second we have the Veypor guage

this multifunctional device does alot of tricks but the two things that make this another "must have" item for the zl rider are the speedo and the gas guage. the speedo's on these ol' zl's have been known to blow out. this occured on my recent trip to New Mexico. the veypor guage is not only super accurate in determining speed, but it also is your back up if your speedo does the "zl speedo death dance" good to know your speed.

the second must have feature is probably the best ... the gas guage. once programmed the veypor gas guage is very very very accurate and you can absolutely count on it to tell you what the real quantity of fuel remaining in your ride. This feature is a peice of mind feature. the factory guage on your ZL1000 does not accurately reflect the amount of fuel on board. when that guage is reading empty ... you are definately not. in fact you prolly have 1.5+ gallons of fuel left. I run my zl1000 with the fuel valve set to the reserve position and treat it as one big 5 gal tank and the veypor lets me know what my range, average fuel milage, instant fuel milage, distance traveled and other usefull info... had I not had a veypor guage on my recent trip I woulda been worried as HLL that I was gona run outa gas... with the veypor .. piece of mind... "must have" item IMHO, and two definate thumbs up from Bacchus


third item recieving road test review --engine Ice

unfortunately due to the events of my recent new mexico trip I am down grading engine ice from "buy" to "dont buy". the stuff does its job of coolant just fine that is not the problem with the product. the problem is that it is not recomended to be mixed with regular anti-freeze. so say your on the road, ya got her loaded up with the ice... ya discover a coolant leak in po-dunk new mexico, ya putter into the next po-dunk town with a mini-mart ... you think they got engine ice on the shelf>>?? NOPE.

now your over heating in the middle of no where with only prestone to get you down the road... whatchagoanna do?...you know it .. in goes whatever you can get your hands on. so the product gets thumbs down not because it fails to perform but because it is just not compatable and SHT happens. Now I guess I'll be doing a coolant flush and dumping that expensive engine ice.. Dont buy unless you can somehow guarantee you will never leak.


fourth and finally..... radial tires

recently got a mean streak rim and loaded up the zl with a set of metzler radials. These tires feel great in the corners. definately give a more positive feel and generally make the bike corner better and just feel rock solid. At normal highway speeds of up to 80mph they perform great. at crusing speeds of 90 or better I was experincing a wobble. felt like the bike was swimming like a fish down the road. now my head bearing is in need of replace and adjust and this may be the cause of my problem or contributing to it so I am going to rate the radials as "undetermined" untill I get the bearing replaced and retest.

being as there is no 100 or110 mm front radial available to my knowledge I went with a 120 70 18 up front and I suspect this is where the problem is. 120 is too big for that front rim and mounting it up on the zl front I belive has altered the profile of the tire in an uncomplimentary maner by pulling the bead in too far and narowing the contact patch somewhat. the lighter weight of the tire may also play a roll. under hard acceleration the problem is not as pronounced, under rapid decell same...steady cruse at high speed... no freakin' way. At current the bike is definately having wobble issues and we've all seen enough youtube to know how that can turn out... so I had to get off the throttle and let the other riders pass me by..

the radial conversion is rated undetermined. if you dont go fast.. go for it... if you are a high speed rider.. better wait to see if I find a cure.

any members who have any knowledge of theories about this PLEASE POST UP!! but start a new thread ... lets keep this one for road test data..



this concludesBacchus' road test review.. other members are encouraged to post up their road test results.! please be sure to only post up on items that have been thoroughly tested get some miles on it and let us know how it worked !!
 
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one more item for the road test review...

HID head light

got one installed about a month ago.. really lights up the road I was happy with it for in town use after getting out on the open road and riding into the night I now consider the HID headlight upgrade to be a "must have" item for any riders that our out after dark. just plain lights up the road in a way that your stocker cant. you gotta see to stay safe and the HID head light is an absolute winner for providing excellent nightime riding. If you live in town and never go out at night, you dont need this.. if you get out of town and ride after dark...you need this! two thumbs up and a "must have" rating
 
I was afraid af that lio....

I think the rear is ok... it is +1 tire size at 180 up from 170 stock the front is most likely the problem as it is +2 tire sizes at 120 up from 100mm

I think there is a company in germany that widens zl rims... do you know the one I'm thinking of??? I seem to remember a post on this a while ago... I may have to go that route or sell these almost no mile radials for a loss and replace them.
 
hey Bacchus,,,thx for the reviews,,,i have a question...where do i get this vapor guage your speaking of.,,,and how hard is it to install it,,,,,?? also...i have an HID replacement bulb in my 900,,but all it is ..is the filament that replaces the stock filament..is that what yours is on the zl 1000 ??...or is it a more elaborate set up...with a box and a wiring harness...???? thx brett
 
bret,

you can google veypor gage and get their website and order there, I belive they also may be available on ebay. I should probably give them a call and find out if this is an Item I can stock as well as I strongly endorse there product, not because of all the fancy stuff it can do but because of a couple must have features like the gas guage.... something the zl9 riders desparately need..

there are two veypor options the veypor and the vr2 the veypor has the must haves the vr2 has the must haves and more bells and whistles.... the one I use often is dyno simulator... very cool for determining power based on changes. It will read about 10% lower than a true dynometer as it takes the bikes weight, speed, and distance performs the calculations and determines rear wheel HP. this would be a very accurate system but it is not able to calculate rolling restance and wind drag in the calculations. these things not being factored in will cause the calculations to come out on the low side by about 10% or so.

the veypor installation is pretty simple, there is a harness that must be installed to provide power and tach readings to the guage. the readings for speed are produced by a magnet mounted to the wheel, and a sensor. the tacho and the speedo functions of this guage are super accurate and will reveal the inaccuracy of your factory guage, as well will not be offset by changes you may have made in wheel size. solid reliable info.

the HID I chose is a sportiva set up I got on ebay. it has a harness, balast and relay. again a not to tough install. 30m hour max to get it all together. this system aslo consumes only 35 watts of power vs. stock 55 and produces 3x the lumines. a bulb alone will not produce the same results as the system as the other components are required to get the full effect. everything tucks up and is hidden. when completed you will not see the hardware.

the only aspect of this system that does not get a five star rating is the relay as it takes a bit before the bulb changes from high beam to low after you hit the switch. it will not snap change as the factory system will. the light output and increased visability are vastly superior IMHO and it is well worth waiting a few seconds for the relay to switch. when your runnin' down the freeway at night being able to se Waaaaay down the road really adds to rider confidence.
 
thanks kawboy

kossman is $425... ouch. with the purchase of the newest zl1000 I have tapped the ZL store and my paypal as much as possible. I have to keep some cash on hand or I will run out of $$ to restock and the store would start to die rather than to continue to grow so I am not going to be making any more significant purchases for a quite a while. I may just have to go with the Avon storm as it is a 110 and is the least expensive way to attempt a cure... but I am going to wait a bit on that.. unless I can craigslist them and get most of my money back... might try that first.

Adapting a different wheel is out alltogether for me.. gotta maintian the classic zl look as much as possible and I think I have modified the look of my ZL1k as much as my personal taste will tolerate.
 
Bacchus,

Thank you for these awesome reviews! If you do end up stocking a throttle boss I will definitely pick one up.
 
first off we have the "throttle Boss"

the throttle boss is a simple device that clips on to the throttle side hand grip. this allows the rider to control the throttle with the palm of your hand rather than with your fingers.

I have a "Throttle Rocker", and I really like it for long rides. As noted, allows you to rest your hand. Just slips onto the grip - 2-second install/remove. $10 incl shipping on ebay -this one's more expensive but has a good pic -
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Thro...9234217QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

There's also the "Cramp Buster", same thing.
 
Hey bro,

A big THUMPS-UP on what you're doing here. This is some great stuff!

As a group we should have initiated this type of "on-going road test" thread long before now.

Good thinking my man; thanks for the time and effort on your part to do the leg work and reporting.:groupcheers:

SO CAL ZL
 
Hey bro,

A big THUMPS-UP on what you're doing here. This is some great stuff!

As a group we should have initiated this type of "on-going road test" thread long before now.

Good thinking my man; thanks for the time and effort on your part to do the leg work and reporting.:groupcheers:

SO CAL ZL

I agree! Nice thread. Thank you, these reviews really benefit us all. With money so tight and the want/need list getting longer its great to benefit from a review before shelling it out.
 
I have those throttle rockers on 2 of my bikes they are a huge help! I have probs with the nerves going to my hands since my wreck back in 2000. Wish I could find a way to put some sort of throttle lock on the ZL (that didnt look gaudy) Would be an even bigger help for me.
 
Wish I could find a way to put some sort of throttle lock on the ZL (that didnt look gaudy) Would be an even bigger help for me.

Hellion, I had one of these for a while. Took some fiddling/modification to get it to fit, and some fiddling/adjustment to get it to hold, but it did work. You can take your hand off the throttle and it will hold for a while, but vibration/bumps/etc will allow the throttle to return after a while.
But it does help.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Crui...rcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eafcfe057
 
Hellion, I had one of these for a while. Took some fiddling/modification to get it to fit, and some fiddling/adjustment to get it to hold, but it did work. You can take your hand off the throttle and it will hold for a while, but vibration/bumps/etc will allow the throttle to return after a while.
But it does help.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Crui...rcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eafcfe057

I have a Vista Cruise model throttle lock on my KZ1100, but There's no way that I could see to make it work on the ZL (Without looking like crap. IMO) Was looking at bar end throttle locks seeing if I could modify the ZL that way. (A little better look I think.)
 
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