What's fastest? Lets see how long..

BTW, I just saw Texas's chart and speaking as an owner of that Honda VF1000R clicking off a 10.8??? I have to raise the B.S. flag on that one too. I got owned by a ZX900 ninja on that bike after three attempts with newby rider that I know.:thefinger: Although my 85 FJ1100 only lost to a ,thats right....an 86 1000r ninja, which I purchased that following month! Just more examples of the game!
 
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BTW, I just saw Texas's chart and speaking as an owner of that Honda VF1000R clicking off a 10.8??? I have to raise the B.S. flag on that one too. I got owned by a ZX900 ninja after three attempts with newby rider that I know.:thefinger: More examples of the game!
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You may be right on that one, I've never personally ridden a VF1000R so I can't speak from personal experience. Still, if ANYBODY could have posted a time in the high 10's on the big ZL, it would have been big news and posted somewhere. Just the fact that it wasn't says volumes to me.
 
Agreed. Maybe we can get that 14 year old dragstrip kid to give it a try???:laughing7:
Oh , and I forgot to mention that your 85 Cycle magazine seems like a more realistic shoot-out camparo than the 84 Cycle Guide chart. Substantial differences in otherwise the same bikes.
 
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I SAY FORGET WHAT THE MAGAZINES SAY OR SAID. AT BEST THE INFO CAN ONLY BE USED AS A BALLPARK ESTIMATE. ANYTHING NOT DIRECTLY LEARNED OR EXPERIENCED IS THIRD PARTY AND THEREFORE QUESTIONABLE. IM NOT FROM MISSOURI, BUT I BELIEVE WHAT I SEE (AND ONLY HALF AT THAT!). LETS PUT THESE ARMCHAIR ARGUMENTS TO BED AND GET A SHOOTOUT ARRANGED FOR THE SPRING...:pistols:OR SHOW ME THE TIMESLIPS.
 
texas-ss-tornado said:
Paul, I'm not doubting that you have PERSONALLY, on YOUR BIKE, beat other riders on V65's, VMAX's or whatever else it was they were running back in the day. This can easily be attributed to you being a better rider, in fact, I would almost bet on it! These magazine articles were done with the same riders in controlled conditions, and like I said, I have yet to see one article claiming a ZL9 or ZL1 time in the high 10's, when I have seen MANY V65 and VMAX times there. Your assertion that the Honda executives were paying off the magazines to get them to post better 1/4 mile times is just plain silly, surely you can come up with something better than that. We'll keep this friendly argument going until next summer in Kansas, then, we'll let the bikes and the riders do the talking!
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I am just telling you my personal experiance! and what I remember most about the bike magazines from back in the day and what other people have said about them. I also find it very funny that the one manufacturer that was accused of this is the one that I noticed the biggest difference in performance from the printed numbers.
I cant remember for sure which, but I actually remember reading an article in one magazine where they tried to answer questions about the parody in thier testing. Wonder why they felt the need to do that???????:hello:

You have warm weather out there! Go to the track and run that v-65 !
Show me a time slip not a magazine qoute as it cant be taken for fact as even prostreet mentioned just a few of the tricks assosiated with tricking the test.

Seen this time and time again! People read the mag and go out and buy the fastest bike only to get smoked repeatedly by the runner up in the same article! .08 of a second dosnt mean crap in the real world unless your the one capeable of getting it out of the bike!

As for marks point about gleason possibly shaving the .07 off of the zl's time as compared to the test published its more than possible. Especially when I have seen seasoned riders that couldnt shave the last few hundreds off of a v-max time slip to get it past the 11.0 mark into the tens but could bottom out other bikes almost effortlessly.
 
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I SAY FORGET WHAT THE MAGAZINES SAY OR SAID.
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Agreed. Arguing about something you saw in a magazine is pretty much pointless unless you can run that number on yourbike. 10.8, 11.0, who cares? I know I can't get that. In a closely matched contest, it's not the bike, it's the rider. I saw a recent post where someone outran a ZX6 or some other 600 sportbike. Those are capable of mid-10's and can spank a ZL, but you're unlikely to find a squid riding around who can squeeze a mid-10 out of it.
 
I sure hope we can get something setup for the spring or next summer, that would be a BLAST! Also gives me some incentive to lose weight, because I don't know what kind of time I would post right now, weighing in at a spritely 265 lbs!!!!!! I can get down to 200 easy, and this would be a great incentive to do it! Also, as far as "hands on" experience, how many of you guys have owned a V65? How many have owned a ZL900? How many have owned a ZL1000? How many have owned a VMAX? How many have all 4 of them in their garage right this very second? I think I stand alone with my hand raised high in the air, if ANYBODY on this site has the hands on experience to judge ALL of these bikes, it would be me, and I'm still saying my stock V65 is faster than a stock ZL900 in the quarter mile, and next spring, I will prove it! That being said, I LOVE MY ZL900 just as much if not more than ANY of the bikes in my stable, it has character, it has that throaty exhaust, and it looks BAD ASS! I go through MANY V65's a year, many come and go, but my ZL900 and my VMAX are keepers, and for a very good reason, they are my favorite 2 bikes, and I sure hope I can keep them for a long, long time to come! Muscle Bike Wars 2010 here I come! :headbang:
 
I'm happy that the 2 other people besides myself that have ridden my bike, think it's "scary fast". :occasion14: :rotf::rotf:
 
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The above ranking were for the quarter mile. In the 1/8 mile, or 0-60, here's my rankings:

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V65
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Like I said the 900ZL is a 1/8th mile drag bike.

Don't try to compare it to a 1000cc or 1200cc bike in 1/4 mile, it is apples and oranges than.

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just read this thread...great debate gentelmen.... Hey mark what's up with that statement that you wont find a faster zl1000 timeslip here ?? check your dragtimes.com feed zl1000 11.8

tsst- I have a zl9, zl10, recently sold a vmax, and I have ridden the v65 magna but never owned one. I have only run the zl's in an official quarter, so all I can say for sure is that is a list of true Badd Arse bikes. I dont see a v65 mag. taking out my zl1000 though. in my exp the zl1000 has more mojo than my zl9, especially from a dead stop. my 1k has a timing plate and a jet kit so, not exactly apples to apples.

as far as mag tests go I agree that this data is suspect. I believe that the bikes used for these tests are not bikes in absolutely bone stock condition the way a buyer would recieve it if purchased at the dealership, but rather bone stock bikes that have been carefully "massaged" by highly trained factory paid mechanics who no doubt know every trick to milking the last crumb of HP out of the bike while remaining technacally "stock"

In bone stock condition I believe that all those bike would spend most of the track attempting to catch up to the zl1000

Im thinking you guys might want to contact some other users groups and expand the day at the drags to include some competition "vintage muscle bike wars" would be very very cool.....and make for a better event as well:devil:
 
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Hey mark what's up with that statement that you wont find a faster zl1000 timeslip here ?? check your dragtimes.com feed zl1000 11.8
Im thinking you guys might want to contact some other users groups and expand the day at the drags to include some competition "vintage muscle bike wars" would be very very cool.....and make for a better event as well:devil:
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I didn't forget about you John, thats why it says Stock ZL1000 timeslip :headbang: :laughing7:

The Day at the drags wouldn't be complete without some good competition from other bikes of the day.
 
Those "drag bikes" for sale really are in a niche that I personally don't care for. First, they are not in the category of factory muscle bikes and with their so called drag style only set-up, they would get their ass handed to them with today's superbikes of equal (or even smaller) size production bikes. Don't get me wrong . They turn heads and are cool looking, but with their single purpose statement, they are asking for defeat on the track as well as on the street. I would prefer those bikes in stock or near stock configuration. I'm sure plenty of others would agree.
 
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Also, as far as "hands on" experience, how many of you guys have owned a V65? How many have owned a ZL900? How many have owned a ZL1000? How many have owned a VMAX? How many have all 4 of them in their garage right this very second? I think I stand alone with my hand raised high in the air, if ANYBODY on this site has the hands on experience to judge ALL of these bikes, it would be me, and I'm still saying my stock V65 is faster than a stock ZL900 in the quarter mile, and next spring, I will prove it!:headbang:
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Texas; you keep bringing this up! But I ask How many here have ran these bikes down the 1/4 mile, both by themselves and side by side with a competitor that was acustomed to the bike?
How many have spent countless days at the track searching for the fastest time ?
 
oh and dont forget paul, what about those timeslips for the vmax, magna, z900, &z1k?
how about it tex. Wheres the timeslips?
 
Walt unfortunately I sold my first zl. Along with the sale went a crate of spare parts and unfortunately due to a miscomunication with the woman, in the crate was all of my time slips and notes from back then along with my leathers!

So I cant qoute timeslips without having it here to post.:sad:
 
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