What's fastest? Lets see how long..

gentlemen..how are things going..im reading all your guys input on the quarter mile times...i was just wondering about whats going to happen after one run with the v65 s,,,,the tranny is going to granade !!! they have weak gearboxes,,i have great respect for the hondas,,,,but i dont think the trannys can take to much abuse,,,i hardley even jumped on my friends in CT...before i could start enjoying the new clutch he put in,,bye bye 2nd gear,,,quarter mile times mean nothing without reliability,,,anyways i dont want to make anybody angry...just wanted to see what you guys thought about that aspect..thx brett
Weak 2nd gear? Only if you ABUSE the thing, if you shift cleanly you'll be fine, I've had 25-30 V65's in the last 5 years and had ONE bike with a bad 2nd gear. I've probably but half a million miles on V65's in my lifetime and never had a 2nd gear issue. That's just BS. Oh, reliability? How about when your starter clutch goes out? Happens all the time. When it happens on a V65, I can fix it in 30 minutes. On a big ZL? Time to pull the engine and split the cases! Now THATS reliability?????
 
Actually it's 1/100th of a second, but yeah, the "seat of the pants" may be full of **** :)
How many V65's have you had son? How many VMAX's? How many big ZL's? I speak from experience, the experience that comes from having MULTIPLE big litre muscle bikes and riding them for years. Let's hear about your "experience", and no, tricycles and big wheels don't count. :rotf:
 
IT BOILS DOWN TO THE RIDER. JUST LIKE IT ALWAYS HAS. WHATS THE POINT IN KEEPING THIS EXERCISE GOING? EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE SAID, HAS.:help:
 
hey tsst --

there is are two zl9's and a zl1000 here in phoenix ready to hand out the arse whippins' if you are confindent enough..... looks like you are about 1000 miles away from a good beatin' ...lol

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Quite the crap between any of you guys, hells bells, I just want to beat the guys light too light, pretty sure with what I've been doing lately, I ain't got no problem. Now I just have to beat this 1230cc Buell light to light and I'll be happy. 555 I need a lot more practice on my launch though. 555
 
Ahh. The Buell Mule! That what we call them around here. Not sure about the new ones, but the Harley engined ones were a joke. I rode one and saw my reflection in a store window. I looked like 5 lbs of crap in a 3 lb bag!
 
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hey tsst-

if paul runs an 11.4 again the only tail lights will be the ones your v65 is following.....

dont care what the magazine hype says....been there done that, and an 11.4 on a street bike is not gonna be beat by your v65...

take your magazine article, add a full second that is where real world runs typically are, if you are real good add .5-.7 seconds......
best case scinerio ... its a close race that you lose by hundreths.... worst case scinerio...paul whipps you good.

dont forget that an 11.4 is almost a perfect run and if you factor in rider weight it probably will prove to be even closer to a perfect run.

dont be too p*ssed when your v65 starts pulling 11.8 - 12+ second quarter mile runs



v65 -------zl900 --------zl1000
116 hp ----105 hp -------110hp
590 lbs ----524lbs -------597lbs
11.08------11.08---------11.12 theoretically possiby perfect run w\200 lb rider

http://www.jcalculator.com/?c=1_4_mile_calculator

now how exactly did they get that bike into the tens?
 
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Have to agree with Walt......comes down to the guy in the saddle!! When I had my first ZL in Dallas in 1985, one of my riding buddies had a new V-Max and those two muscle bikes were seen everywhere together. We were not obsesssed with racing each other but we played alot and I got the best of him the majority of the time. That being said, I know his Kahoona's weren't as long as mine so I reallize a rider of equal or better skill would've embarassed me as much as I did him! The consensus of riders and mags of the era was that the mighty Max was King. Personally, I love all of the muscle bikes of the day but owned ony the ZL9. Considering the ZL was in the thick of the muscle bike wars with such a big disadvantage in displacement(2 to 3 hundred cc's) speaks volumes to me!! I think if the roles were reversed the other manufacturers would'nt have even been in the ballpark. :winkcool:
 
Re: 80's Power Cruiser Shootout!

hey tsst-

if paul runs an 11.4 again the only tail lights will be the ones your v65 is following.....

dont care what the magazine hype says....been there done that, and an 11.4 on a street bike is not gonna be beat by your v65...

take your magazine article, add a full second that is where real world runs typically are, if you are real good add .5-.7 seconds......
best case scinerio ... its a close race that you lose by hundreths.... worst case scinerio...paul whipps you good.

dont forget that an 11.4 is almost a perfect run and if you factor in rider weight it probably will prove to be even closer to a perfect run.

dont be too p*ssed when your v65 starts pulling 11.8 - 12+ second quarter mile runs



v65 -------zl900 --------zl1000
116 hp ----105 hp -------110hp
590 lbs ----524lbs -------597lbs


Agreed. If Paul can pull off another mid 11 second run, it will be virtually imposible to beat. I beleive that matches Dale walkers best. Thats flying!!:headbang:
 
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Agreed. If Paul can pull off another mid 11 second run, it will be virtually imposible to beat. I beleive that matches Dale walkers best. Thats flying!!:headbang:

Is Pauls bike stock? I thought that's what we were discussing? My V65 is bone stock, and I'll be HAPPY with a 12 second run! That's what I'm shooting for, anything better than that is gravy! I also agree, a better rider on a lesser bike can beat a lesser rider on a better bike, that's a given. That being said, I know how to ride, I'm confident in my abilities, just a big "overweight". I plan on fixing that by summer! :thumbsup:
 
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Thats sounds like me, John. A "bit" overweight but with street racing experience. Just practice with the christmas tree lights and you'll get a good holeshot. Thats the key to winning a drag race, as you probably already know. With a similar wheelbase and shaft drive, that V65's torquey V -4 should pull out nicely.
 
good morning,,i thought they all had issues with the transmissions..i guess not,,,,sounds like you would definetly know,,i thought about maybe buying one,,they are really fast..and they do have a nice look about them,,when my buddys sabre lost 2nd gear,,i thought that problem was inherent to all the v 65 s....brett
 
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Is Pauls bike stock? I thought that's what we were discussing? My V65 is bone stock, and I'll be HAPPY with a 12 second run! That's what I'm shooting for, anything better than that is gravy! I also agree, a better rider on a lesser bike can beat a lesser rider on a better bike, that's a given. That being said, I know how to ride, I'm confident in my abilities, just a big "overweight". I plan on fixing that by summer! :thumbsup:

Dont worry Texas I will bring a stock ZL to the track
I will also bring a "STOCK" zl as what I belive is massaged to the same level as the hondas used for those tests way back when.

I think it would be an interesting comparrison to see the difference between the ringer and what most could go and buy from the showroom floor.

I wont get into the numbers game since I dont have any of my old time slips from when I raced all the time and my wieght wasnt as much of a factor except to say that the zl9 has gotten way closer to the 11.0 than 11.4 in stock form.

Best bet here is to get your bike into the tens as advertised in the mags if your are serious about winning !
 
good morning,,i thought they all had issues with the transmissions..i guess not,,,,sounds like you would definetly know,,i thought about maybe buying one,,they are really fast..and they do have a nice look about them,,when my buddys sabre lost 2nd gear,,i thought that problem was inherent to all the v 65 s....brett

That very well may be, being that the Sabre does use the same powertrain as the V65 to my knowledge. Here a quote from Wikepedia : "In 1983, Cycle magazine reported that Jay Pee-Wee Gleason made a 10.92 second, 124.82 mph 1/4-mile run with a V65 Magna, which had the same engine as the V65 Sabre." Personally, I always liked the looks of the sabre over the Magna. Heres a beautiful one: http://www.ericdixondesigns.com/motorcycle.htm
 
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That very well may be, being that the Sabre does use the same powertrain as the V65 to my knowledge. Here a quote from Wikepedia : "In 1983, Cycle magazine reported that Jay Pee-Wee Gleason made a 10.92 second, 124.82 mph 1/4-mile run with a V65 Magna, which had the same engine as the V65 Sabre." Personally, I always liked the looks of the sabre over the Magna. Heres a beautiful one: http://www.ericdixondesigns.com/motorcycle.htm

I remember those. That is a nice looking machine.
 
I remember those. That is a nice looking machine.
I love em' too, and personally, I think they are a little bit faster than the Maggies, but problem is, they don't sell for SQUAT! I mean to tell you, you can find a nice example for a grand nowadays, where a big Magna will be 3 times that much. If I can get them REALLY cheap, I still get them and restore em', I've probably done half a dozen in the last couple of years. The instrument clusters on them are about half the bikes value, they typically bring 4-500 bucks on eBay! Sportier riding position, but people don't like the looks. Even on the V65 forum they are treated as the ugly step sister!!!!!!!
 
I love em' too, and personally, I think they are a little bit faster than the Maggies, but problem is, they don't sell for SQUAT! I mean to tell you, you can find a nice example for a grand nowadays, where a big Magna will be 3 times that much. If I can get them REALLY cheap, I still get them and restore em', I've probably done half a dozen in the last couple of years. The instrument clusters on them are about half the bikes value, they typically bring 4-500 bucks on eBay! Sportier riding position, but people don't like the looks. Even on the V65 forum they are treated as the ugly step sister!!!!!!!

rreally?? I actually think the opposite. That one I posted is nicer than any v65 I've seen. But thats just me.
 
rreally?? I actually think the opposite. That one I posted is nicer than any v65 I've seen. But thats just me.

You and I are definitely in the minority. Seriousy, I post about one a week from Craigslist on the V4 forum around the country in good shape for a grand or less, you can't GIVE THEM AWAY!!!!!!!
 
I just want to beat the guys light too light
Amen brother thats why I bought the ZL. In real world drags, especially the motorway on ramp (freeway to you guys?) no one has ever beaten me up to 100km/h (60mph). In 3 second races I am pretty sure the ZL900 cleans up everything. I had a new Suzuki GSX-R1000 take me on the other day, rolling on on expressway he would pull away from me. At the end of the expressway is a set of lights...and i waited. I got the primo launch, and there he was stuck about 10 meters behind me not gaining until i let off around top legal speed. Without a doubt if we had gone on I expect he would have easily speed past - but for a 23 year old bike, the fact I fear no bike launching off at traffic lights is pretty amazing. I am unlikely to ever race someone for a 1/4 mile, especially on the roads, so the ZL rules in the real world. Just the right amount of power to weight so you can get the power into the back rubber with just a little bit of front wheel skipping off the ground.

If you think someone has managed to launch faster than you on a modern bike Id be interested to hear it. Surely i cant only be riding against losers? The marketing of the ZL claimed the fastest 0-50 - it never claimed the best 1/4 mile so im not sure how people even began debating that a ZL is somehow faster at 1/4 mile drags...its not. If it was at the time there would have been a massive promotional campaign to let you know on no uncertain terms. But give me 1/8 mile and it might be another story... :)
 
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